Port of Churchill Manitoba

[1ajs]

Theres some serious money being drawn up for that port from fn atm see what happens

[bodaggin]

Blanchet (federal): https://x.com/govt_corrupt/status/1887525339913433175
Legault (provincial): https://x.com/Tablesalt13/status/1886877929923338446

BOTH are saying no to any pipelines thru Quebec from AB. So Hudson Bay becomes Alberta's ONLY other viable eastbound option.

MB's value just skyrocketed. Watch this play out. It's gonna get feisty.

[Hecate]

All equalization to the province should be stopped.

[bodaggin]

Originally Posted by Hecate

All equalization to the province should be stopped.

Oh it should be proposed. But Smith is utterly gutless as shown by her handling of Trump. Just be careful what you wish for, MB is the second largest equalization recipient in the country. So we could be in the wrath of equalization cancellation too. That's why I've been so vocal about diversifying MB off of the equalization teet in here.

A port and corridor like this ties MB into the western "network" better. Giving us strategic leverage on many fronts. Of course it helps get us OFF the equalization too by earning some pennies.

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

Oh it should be proposed. But Smith is utterly gutless as shown by her handling of Trump. Just be careful what you wish for, MB is the second largest equalization recipient in the country. So we could be in the wrath of equalization cancellation too. That's why I've been so vocal about diversifying MB off of the equalization teet in here.

A port and corridor like this ties MB into the western "network" better. Giving us strategic leverage on many fronts. Of course it helps get us OFF the equalization too by earning some pennies.

But Manitoba isn’t threatening separation and blocking nation building infrastructure projects.

[bodaggin]

Originally Posted by Hecate

But Manitoba isn’t threatening separation and blocking nation building infrastructure projects.

Agree, but Alberta is.

They've got a level anger, irrationality and self-grandiosity right now that many support 51st state. For AB only. So they may try to abandon everyone including MB. An AB only 51st state would be the worst case scenario for MB: Losing $4.5B equalization + being landlocked to the Pacific. We're in a very precarious situation in MB.

[bomberjet]

Okay so I'll wade back into these waters haha

Good news on the funding for AGG. My workplace has bid on some jobs and got some work with them. But I'm not up to speed on what exactly all the money is being spent on.

There's still the issue of permafrost in the northern areas. I don't believe any of this money will be enough to reconstruct the line to deal with that problem permanently. So I'm assuming they're doing upgrades to the track itself. New rail, ties, ballast. They've been doing structures checks. Not sure on status of bridge or culvert rehab's.

Is this specific info available anywhere? Like where has the $100+ million gone?

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

Agree, but Alberta is.

They've got a level anger, irrationality and self-grandiosity right now that many support 51st state. For AB only. So they may try to abandon everyone including MB. An AB only 51st state would be the worst case scenario for MB: Losing $4.5B equalization + being landlocked to the Pacific. We're in a very precarious situation in MB.

Because they’re fed up with the country exploiting them.

[bomberjet]

Some info here. So yes work on the track structure. We'll see how things hold up.

https://www.arcticgateway.com/agg-news/newsroom/record-breaking-construction-2024

[bodaggin]

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[Stormer]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

Agree, but Alberta is.

They've got a level anger, irrationality and self-grandiosity right now that many support 51st state. For AB only. So they may try to abandon everyone including MB. An AB only 51st state would be the worst case scenario for MB: Losing $4.5B equalization + being landlocked to the Pacific. We're in a very precarious situation in MB.

Why would U.S. state of Alberta stop MB goods from crossing to/from the Pacific?

I actually think Alberta joining the U.S. could happen in the unlikely event the Liberals are re-elected while Trump is in office. Especially if the Liberals and Quebec continue to block pipelines.

[pspeid]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Some info here. So yes work on the track structure. We'll see how things hold up.

https://www.arcticgateway.com/agg-news/newsroom/record-breaking-construction-2024

Thanks for posting this report. The cut in travel time due to improved track conditions is certainly an accomplishment they can be proud of, and one that can inspire confidence in potential customers using the railway.

[bodaggin]

Originally Posted by Stormer

Why would U.S. state of Alberta stop MB goods from crossing to/from the Pacific?

I actually think Alberta joining the U.S. could happen in the unlikely event the Liberals are re-elected while Trump is in office. Especially if the Liberals and Quebec continue to block pipelines.

Not saying they WOULD stop goods, but they COULD stop goods. It creates many land dispute potentials. From both sides.

Most of what we buy is made in China. Right now it hits the Vancouver port and distributes out to MB via 1 country: Canada. If only AB went 51st state, MB goods would now have to travel across 3 borders to hit MB: BC/Canada, AB/USA, Mb/Sk/Canada. That's guaranteed to add to shipping costs and times for MB-bound goods.

[Stormer]

I think LNG makes sense for Churchill now that the market has exploded in Europe. There no risk of an oil spill and the demand is in summer/fall to build inventories for the winter heating season. Alberta and especially NE BC have almost unlimited gas potential.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

Blanchet (federal): https://x.com/govt_corrupt/status/1887525339913433175
Legault (provincial): https://x.com/Tablesalt13/status/1886877929923338446

BOTH are saying no to any pipelines thru Quebec from AB. So Hudson Bay becomes Alberta's ONLY other viable eastbound option.

MB's value just skyrocketed. Watch this play out. It's gonna get feisty.

Why are they saying NO to the pipeline? I just do not get it.

[FactaNV]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Why are they saying NO to the pipeline? I just do not get it.

Lack of a pollution mitigation financing guarantee and the pipes are routed to run in areas that may contaminate the drinking water for Mtl and QC. That and they won't make much money of it lol.

[bodaggin]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Why are they saying NO to the pipeline? I just do not get it.

I'm with you, makes no sense. Recent Angus Reid survey here with 74% of Quebec supporting more pipelines. So I can only assume 3 reasons: 1) NIMBY's 2) Special interests own the politicians 3) Politicians not recognizing sentiment shift.

Either way, I'm MB. We need to seize this opportunity before QC changes their mind. Snooze you lose, QC.

BTW, if an oil pipe did gamble on Hud Bay, we'd still be able to send crude by boat from HudBay to Montreal up the St Lawrence. Saves like 1800km of pipeline construction

https://x.com/ExnerPirot/status/1887504622534992164

[drew]

It always boils down to a question of $$.

For Quebec I am sure it would be a combination of $$ plus some other things related to guarantees of construction contracts, language requirements, etc.

[1ajs]

The push for port nelson is to get around the bands that cant get along with anyone in churchill nothing to do with permafrost.

[drew]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

I'm with you, makes no sense. Recent Angus Reid survey here with 74% of Quebec supporting more pipelines. So I can only assume 3 reasons: 1) NIMBY's 2) Special interests own the politicians 3) Politicians not recognizing sentiment shift.

Either way, I'm MB. We need to seize this opportunity before QC changes their mind. Snooze you lose, QC.

https://x.com/ExnerPirot/status/1887504622534992164

I dunno. Even if we somehow manage to make Churchill or another northern port feasible - if Quebec ever comes to it's senses and the southern E-W pipeline is built - it would instantly and permanently "eat our lunch" so to speak.