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Old Posted Jan 21, 2025, 5:01 PM
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From the Atlantic Canada Statistics Thread:

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Stats Canada's latest population projections were released today, including provincial populations.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/250121/dq250121c-eng.htm
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The Canadian population could exceed 59 million by 2074

According to the projection scenarios, the Canadian population, estimated at 40.3 million in 2024, would continue to grow in the coming decades to reach between 45.2 million (low-growth scenario) and 80.8 million (high-growth scenario) by 2074.

According to the medium-growth scenario, the Canadian population would reach 59.3 million in 2074. In the short term, a substantial reduction in the number of permanent residents admitted to the country, as well as a decrease in the number of non-permanent residents, would result in much lower population growth than that observed recently in 2022 and 2023. The population would even decrease slightly from 2025 to 2026, according to the low- and medium-growth scenarios. In all scenarios, however, migratory increase would be the key driver of population growth in Canada, continuing a trend observed since the early 1990s.

Population aging would continue regardless of the projection scenario considered. The share of older adults aged 65 and older within the total population would also continue to increase for Canada as a whole, as well as in all provinces and territories.

In addition, according to the medium-growth scenario, the population aged 85 and older in Canada would more than double over the period from 2031 to 2051, from 1.2 million to 2.8 million. This rapid growth would be a result of the baby-boom generation (born between 1946 and 1965) reaching this oldest age group.

Finally, all scenarios show an increase in the demographic weight of Alberta and a decrease in Newfoundland and Labrador, Quebec and Yukon from 2024 to 2049. Elsewhere, results vary according to the scenario chosen, mainly depending on interprovincial migration assumptions. For example, the demographic weight of Atlantic provinces other than Newfoundland and Labrador could increase from 2024 to 2049 in a scenario involving the continuation of recent trends.
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2025, 4:36 AM
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For the vast majority of people and the amount they use them whether it’s an hour or 3.5 to the mountains it’s not an important enough difference to really matter to their quality of life.

I’ve done many day trips from Edmonton to Marmot. It can be a long day for sure but quite do-able.
Sure, it’s possible to drive to 4 hrs to Marmot, go skiing for 6 hours and drive back 4 hours in the same day, and also throw in a couple of meals. Technically it’s doable but for 99.9% don’t consider that doable.
It’s also possible to drive from Kamloops to Vancouver and go ocean kayaking and go back the same day, but ocean activities aren’t part of Kamloops’ identity just like the mountains aren’t part of Edmonton‘s identity.

Part of these identities (mountains, oceans) come from proximity, and the ability do things at the drop of a hat and not having to make a 15 hour day of it, the other part is being able to actually see the mountains, oceans, etc I see the mountains out my window every day and on the way home from work.

In one sense, yes, Edmonton has access to the mountains, but when somebody says ‘Edmonton has the mountains’, it’s like saying Kamloops has the ocean.
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Sure, it’s possible to drive to 4 hrs to Marmot, go skiing for 6 hours and drive back 4 hours in the same day, and also throw in a couple of meals. Technically it’s doable but for 99.9% don’t consider that doable.
It’s also possible to drive from Kamloops to Vancouver and go ocean kayaking and go back the same day, but ocean activities aren’t part of Kamloops’ identity just like the mountains aren’t part of Edmonton‘s identity.

Part of these identities (mountains, oceans) come from proximity, and the ability do things at the drop of a hat and not having to make a 15 hour day of it, the other part is being able to actually see the mountains, oceans, etc I see the mountains out my window every day and on the way home from work.

In one sense, yes, Edmonton has access to the mountains, but when somebody says ‘Edmonton has the mountains’, it’s like saying Kamloops has the ocean.
There's no question people Identify Calgary with the mountains, and Edmonton isn't identified as being near the mountains. He's just saying that they still have access to the mountains. Not easy access or options like Calgary, but much better than other cities around western Canada, like say Regina, or Fort McMurray, etc.. You could go on a ski trip to Jasper and return in one day. It's not good, but it's doable. It's not at all doable from a place like Fort Mac or Saskatoon.
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I only ever lived in Edmonton for two years, but I never felt even a little bit as if it were meaningfully connected to the Rockies or to the culture of the mountains. Sure, some Edmontonians enjoy mountain recreation (after a loooong drive) but it's not a significant aspect of the city's identity, economy, vibe or anything else.

Honestly, Edmonton feels more culturally connected to the north, by which I mean northern Alberta and even the territories beyond. It's the closest thing we have to a northern metropolis, and let's be honest, it gets pretty tundra-y feeling in the coldest part of the year (i.e., now).
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I moved out to Alberta a few years back. I had opportunities in Calgary and Edmonton and visited both cities, both were nice. BTW, Edmonton is a bit underrated I think. Before moving everyone told me to go to Calgary, but I found Edmonton to be a nice enough city. Better than what I was expecting.

The mountains were one of the factors in our decision to move to Calgary. We visited Banff and Canmore and loved it, but I confess that I don't actually use the national parks that often except for the odd ski trip or to take visiting relatives. Instead we use the Kananaskis/Bragg creek area a lot. We love the area as an amenity and it tends to be more used by locals compared to the national parks which are heavily tourist oriented.

It depends on where you live in Calgary, but I can be at a location like this in about 40 minutes from my doorstep.

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Holey Moley, quite the Alberta blast on this page, especially from forumers that haven't posted here in years!
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^ Absolutely. It's nice to see.

I'd love more Calgary on this forum. It's exploding in growth right now and becoming a very interesting city in its own right.
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^ Absolutely. It's nice to see.

I'd love more Calgary on this forum. It's exploding in growth right now and becoming a very interesting city in its own right.
Totally agree, mister!
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2025, 7:13 PM
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All of the Calgary forumers are at a site called Skyrisecities these days (I confess to visiting it often), but many visit here to check out the action.

TBH, I'm surprised there are more posts from Calgary folks, given the city has been exploding the past few years. 200K growth in 2 years, and IIRC around 250K in 3 years. Ton loads of development going on to go with it.
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From the Atlantic Canada Statistics Thread:


The Canadian population could exceed 59 million by 2074

According to the projection scenarios, the Canadian population, estimated at 40.3 million in 2024, would continue to grow in the coming decades to reach between 45.2 million (low-growth scenario) and 80.8 million (high-growth scenario) by 2074.

According to the medium-growth scenario, the Canadian population would reach 59.3 million in 2074. In the short term, a substantial reduction in the number of permanent residents admitted to the country, as well as a decrease in the number of non-permanent residents, would result in much lower population growth than that observed recently in 2022 and 2023. The population would even decrease slightly from 2025 to 2026, according to the low- and medium-growth scenarios. In all scenarios, however, migratory increase would be the key driver of population growth in Canada, continuing a trend observed since the early 1990s.
I'm convinced that the population will continue to increase dramatically. There are variables, but due to climate change, more and more people will do whatever it takes to migrate north.

Many scientists predict that in 20 years, much of Arizona, Nevada, and even Southern California will be uninhabitable. That is to say nothing about the climate change refugees in Latin America, and other parts of the World:

https://www.zurich.com/media/magazine/20...ees-by-2050-here-s-what-you-need-to-know
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I moved out to Alberta a few years back. I had opportunities in Calgary and Edmonton and visited both cities, both were nice. BTW, Edmonton is a bit underrated I think. Before moving everyone told me to go to Calgary, but I found Edmonton to be a nice enough city. Better than what I was expecting.

The mountains were one of the factors in our decision to move to Calgary. We visited Banff and Canmore and loved it, but I confess that I don't actually use the national parks that often except for the odd ski trip or to take visiting relatives. Instead we use the Kananaskis/Bragg creek area a lot. We love the area as an amenity and it tends to be more used by locals compared to the national parks which are heavily tourist oriented.

It depends on where you live in Calgary, but I can be at a location like this in about 40 minutes from my doorstep.
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Immigration by metro area (CMA), 2024, top 10 (new permanent residents)
Toronto: 124,660
Vancouver: 47,575
Montreal: 38,700
Calgary: 31,140
Ottawa: 29,715
Edmonton: 24,055
Winnipeg: 18,400
Halifax: 10,540
Kitchener: 10,210
Saskatoon: 8,505

Immigration by country of citizenship, 2024, top 10 (new permanent residents)
India: 127,320
Philippines: 32,300
China: 29,950
Cameroon: 21,200
Nigeria: 20,380
Eritrea: 16,585
Afghanistan: 12,280
Pakistan: 11,940
Iran: 11,150
France: 9,940

“Permanent Residents – Monthly IRCC Updates”
Open Government Canada, Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada
https://open.canada.ca/data/en/dataset/f7e5498e-0ad8-4417-85c9-9b8aff9b9eda
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I'm surprised to see France on that list
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Immigration by metro area (CMA), 2024, top 10 (new permanent residents)
Toronto: 124,660
Vancouver: 47,575
Montreal: 38,700
Calgary: 31,140
Ottawa: 29,715
Edmonton: 24,055
Winnipeg: 18,400
Halifax: 10,540
Kitchener: 10,210
Saskatoon: 8,505

Immigration by country of citizenship, 2024, top 10 (new permanent residents)
India: 127,320
Philippines: 32,300
China: 29,950
Cameroon: 21,200
Nigeria: 20,380
Eritrea: 16,585
Afghanistan: 12,280
Pakistan: 11,940
Iran: 11,150
France: 9,940

“Permanent Residents – Monthly IRCC Updates”
Open Government Canada, Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada
https://open.canada.ca/data/en/dataset/f7e5498e-0ad8-4417-85c9-9b8aff9b9eda
Saskatoon has more than *Hamilton*? wow.
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I'm surprised to see France on that list
France has been at or near the top of the list of countries of origin for Quebec for several years now.
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I am surprised the USA isn't on that top 10 list given their large overall population, proximity, and ties to Canada. Otherwise nothing stands out beyond India truly being in a class of its own.
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I am surprised the USA isn't on that top 10 list given their large overall population, proximity, and ties to Canada. Otherwise nothing stands out beyond India truly being in a class of its own.
People from first world countries don't emigrate to other first world countries much these days. France-to-Quebec is one notable exception, as is UK-to-Australia on the other side of the world.
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I am surprised the USA isn't on that top 10 list given their large overall population, proximity, and ties to Canada. Otherwise nothing stands out beyond India truly being in a class of its own.
I think this is the first year ever when neither the UK or the USA are not in the top 10. USA was close at 9,320 new permanent residents, down from 10,640 in 2023.
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Immigration by metro area (CMA), 2024, top 10 (new permanent residents)
Toronto: 124,660
Vancouver: 47,575
Montreal: 38,700
Calgary: 31,140
Ottawa: 29,715
Edmonton: 24,055
Winnipeg: 18,400
Halifax: 10,540
Kitchener: 10,210
Saskatoon: 8,505

Immigration by country of citizenship, 2024, top 10 (new permanent residents)
India: 127,320
Philippines: 32,300
China: 29,950
Cameroon: 21,200
Nigeria: 20,380
Eritrea: 16,585
Afghanistan: 12,280
Pakistan: 11,940
Iran: 11,150
France: 9,940

“Permanent Residents – Monthly IRCC Updates”
Open Government Canada, Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada
https://open.canada.ca/data/en/dataset/f7e5498e-0ad8-4417-85c9-9b8aff9b9eda
I wonder if the figure for India won't take a big fall for 2025?
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France has been at or near the top of the list of countries of origin for Quebec for several years now.
France and the UK were regularly in the top ten, pre-COVID, no?
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