Burnaby Updates

[a13]

this design is awesome. wonder what will become of 4980 Kingsway though given this building wraps around half of it

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by a13

this design is awesome. wonder what will become of 4980 Kingsway though given this building wraps around half of it

The overall masterplan concept submitted earlier suggests that it will be redeveloped into a highrise tower in a proposed phase 3.

But as you can see from the timelines proposed, that's waaaaaaaaaay down the road (75 years).

If they do stick to that timeline then in all likelihood no one reading this right now will be alive to see that happen

(....or phase 2 either)

[mcj]

Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

The overall masterplan concept submitted earlier suggests that it will be redeveloped into a highrise tower in a proposed phase 3.

But as you can see from the timelines proposed, that's waaaaaaaaaay down the road (75 years).

If they do stick to that timeline then in all likelihood no one reading this right now will be alive to see that happen

(....or phase 2 either)

I can kind of believe the timelines considering it's a family controlled business, I'm sure though those extremely long timelines are probably just to soften potential opposition to a larger development and warm the city up to the first phase. No reason the timelines can't be brought forward when the right market conditions come along, which will need to happen if they intend to build that much office space over the next phases. (and of course they'll likely pivot on the office component if that market doesn't ever recover)

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Rezoning application:
...
6 elevators, only 3 go to the very top. Surprised they don't have more penthouses.

That's not very many, unless the offices at the base have different elevators.

[griswold]

Downtown needs a rooftop platform like this. The only public one is Waterfront Center and it's completely indoors and not even 500ft high.

[SpongeG]

100 years for the 4th phase? yikes.

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

100 years for the 4th phase? yikes.

Well we are lucky then that the first phase is the best one.

[madog222]

Here's an updated submission for the Revs Bowling site redevelopment, one tower have been changed to rental.

Unit numbers are now 1190 strata, 243 market rental, and 235 affordable rental.


Image from City of Burnaby https://pub-burnaby.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=80304

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by madog222

Unit numbers are now 1190 strata, 243 market rental, and 235 affordable rental.

Is there a definitional difference between "affordable rental" and "below market rental"? This is the first time I've seen "affordable rental" used.

[madog222]

Originally Posted by chowhou

Is there a definitional difference between "affordable rental" and "below market rental"? This is the first time I've seen "affordable rental" used.

They're synonymous.

https://www.bchousing.org/housing-assistance/rental-housing/affordable-rental-housing

[jollyburger]

Once called “sacrosanct,” the policy originally required developers to build 20% of a development as below-market rental units to be rented at rates 20% below the market median for the neighbourhood – a rate locally called “Burnaby affordable.”

Council voted to reduce the policy from 20% required non-market rentals to 15%, and changed the below-market rates: 10% of the units to be rented at 20% below the median and 5% at the median.

(The Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp.’s median rent represents about a 40% discount on market rents, according to the staff report.)

But staff originally recommended, based on the financial analysis, to reduce the percentage even further, from 20% of the development built as non-market rentals to 10%.

Ed Kozak, general manager of planning and development, told council changing the rates beyond what was recommended “would be creating a bylaw that we know does not have financial viability.”

(While the staff report noted “financially viable” is a term “not necessarily well defined by legislation,” the city specified it as a 15% return on investment.)

But councillors disagreed with staff’s recommendations and changed the inclusionary rates.

“You have given us your best advice,” said Coun. Sav Dhaliwal. “Council feels that in order to be an affordable community, we need more than that.”

https://www.burnabynow.com/local-news/bu...requirements-in-new-developments-9644533

https://pub-burnaby.escribemeetings.com/...%20now%3A%20outbound&utm_medium=referral

[mcj]

Originally Posted by madog222

Here's an updated submission for the Revs Bowling site redevelopment, one tower have been changed to rental.

Unit numbers are now 1190 strata, 243 market rental, and 235 affordable rental.


Image from City of Burnaby https://pub-burnaby.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=80304

There's an absolutely ridiculous amount of trees in that schematic

[osirisboy]

Originally Posted by mcj

There's an absolutely ridiculous amount of trees in that schematic

Very odd rendering.

[vancity_m]

Seems like none of these new developments are taking much advantage of putting retail along Goring. It would be nice for all these hundreds of new condo dwellers to have a bit of a high street they could run errands on at the east end of the Brentwood area, since Dawson is turning into that further to the west.

[jollyburger]

The Brentwood Town Centre Plan envisions commercial on the subject site along
Goring Street. In discussions with the applicant, it was proposed that a small
commercial use (approximately 636 m2
) be provided along the development’s frontage
on Lougheed Highway to serve the daily needs of residents in the neighbourhood. The
addition of local commercial uses along Lougheed Highway requires a minor
amendment to the Brentwood Town Centre Development Plan, which if approved
would take effect upon Council granting Second Reading to the Rezoning Amendment
Bylaw for the subject site. Further details of the proposed Community Plan
Amendment are outlined in Section 3.3 of this report.

Given the site’s adjacency to Holdom SkyTrain Station, commercial use utilizing the
C2 District as a guideline is proposed along the Lougheed Highway frontage, as
shown in the Figure 2. This supports the objective of providing walkable opportunities
for residents, employees, and transit passengers to meet their day to day and
convenience shopping and service needs and encourages social interaction within the
neighbourhood.

https://pub-burnaby.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=80304

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by vancity_m

Seems like none of these new developments are taking much advantage of putting retail along Goring. It would be nice for all these hundreds of new condo dwellers to have a bit of a high street they could run errands on at the east end of the Brentwood area, since Dawson is turning into that further to the west.

For the bowling alley site, there's a stream along the Goring frontage, so with setbacks, there isn't much space for retail along there on this parcel. They have a small amenity building there instead.

Originally Posted by officedweller

Looks like a lot of the Goring frontage is a riparian zone to daylight Beecher Creek, so that probably limited what they could do retail-wise.
But the amenity should really be a retail shop/cafe, unless it's set back a lot from the road to allow park access.


Brentwood Land Use Map

Older rendering showing the amenity building on Goring, but I'm not sure if it is still proposed there in the updated proposal:

Originally Posted by officedweller

Keltic’s Plan for Rev’s Bowling Site Includes Three Towers, 1,665 Units
https://vancouvermarket.ca/2024/11/19/ke...g-site-includes-three-towers-1665-units/


https://vancouvermarket.ca/2024/11/19/ke...g-site-includes-three-towers-1665-units/

[jollyburger]

Burnaby looks to scrap Confederation Park Community Centre redevelopment

Burnaby city council is considering abandoning its plans for a pricey revamped Confederation Park Community Centre.

The project had been going full-steam ahead, with construction supposed to have started in the fall, until last summer when it came to a grinding halt.

In August 2024, council looked at scaling back the redevelopment after the provincial government changed legislation, which affects how cities can use density bonuses from developers. It effectively means the city can no longer tap into that money in the same way, and the project is no longer fully covered.

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/01/27...rk-community-centre-redevelopment-scrap/

[Migrant_Coconut]

Aaaaaand it's gone.

Burnaby cancels $240M Confederation Park Community Centre project amid funding challenges

Link

Burnaby council has cancelled a $240-million plan to build a major community centre at Confederation Park.

Councillors expressed their disappointment with the situation at a meeting Tuesday, Jan. 28.

Staff had recommended abandoning the plan to redevelop Confederation Park Community Centre, as not only have costs escalated since the project was first introduced, but the city’s usual major civic project funding source has run dry.

For the most part, councillors agreed with staff that the northwest quadrant of Burnaby won’t need another community centre because the Brentwood Community Centre has already been approved.

The project is still on the city’s long-term to-do list, as it is included in calculations for the city’s new amenity funding bylaw, a new mechanism by which the city will fund major civic projects through charges on development.

But the bylaw was just introduced last year, and while some money has collected in that “amenity cost charge” reserve, staff are not sure when enough will accumulate to continue with the community centre project.

“It all depends on development and economic activity,” Noreen Kassam, chief financial officer and deputy chief administrative officer, told councillors.

Kassam noted if the council decided to scale down the project and borrow money for a $160-million community centre, the total loan cost for an amortization period of 10 years would be about $200 million — for a “bare bones facility.”

[Beepboop]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Aaaaaand it's gone.

Good. Seemed unnecessary truthfully with the Grosvenor community center being built.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by madog222

Here's an updated submission for the Revs Bowling site redevelopment, one tower have been changed to rental.

Unit numbers are now 1190 strata, 243 market rental, and 235 affordable rental.

Site plan showing no separate amenity building on Goring, so it's all park and greenspace on the south side.


https://storeys.com/keltic-development-5502-lougheed-burnaby-revs-bowling/