The Official Saint John, NB Project Thread - Page 775

darkharbour · #**15481** Posted **Jan 18, 2025, 12:11 AM**

Good for them, there is no reason to bow to pressure on this one, the project will go ahead either way.

EnvisionSaintJohn · #**15482** Posted **Jan 18, 2025, 12:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by bingun

Going through the details, the city is recommending the parking lot be denied.

That’s pleasantly surprising. Guessing no more pedestrian overpass?

I think the only zoning change they should allow at that property should be for residential. They could build an underground parking first and use it for their expansion parking needs, then either sell it off to a private developer or build a residential tower or two themselves.

Would be quite a nice location with an amazing view, even the side that would look towards the mill.

sailor734 · #**15483** Posted **Jan 18, 2025, 1:35 AM**

So, this is a staff recommendation. No guarantee PAC will vote that way and also no guarantee council will go along with whatever PAC votes to recommend.

Still, it's a hopeful sign.

cdnguys · #**15484** Posted **Jan 18, 2025, 2:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by sailor734

So, this is a staff recommendation. No guarantee PAC will vote that way and also no guarantee council will go along with whatever PAC votes to recommend.

Still, it's a hopeful sign.

Between St Rose church and Lancaster Mall they could probably eke out 400 rental spots (part of Lancaster mall parking rarely crowded) and could have shuttle buses. They probably own land on Golden Mile too they could use. Or I wonder if they considered this lot off the truck access road. [IMG]

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bingun · #**15485** Posted **Jan 18, 2025, 8:41 PM**

Steepleview Development

Windows/Balconies/Exterior are starting to come together.

KnoxfordGuy · #**15486** Posted **Jan 18, 2025, 8:45 PM**

Appreciate all photos!

sailor734 · #**15487** Posted **Jan 18, 2025, 8:50 PM**

Interesting, the look actually blends well with St Vincent’s. Wonder if they will use light coloured cladding to keep the look close.

bingun · #**15488** Posted **Jan 18, 2025, 9:14 PM**

I also grabbed some quick pics while I was up at Costco of the East Point development. Continue your speculation...

JakeNB · #**15489** Posted **Jan 18, 2025, 9:46 PM**

What’s happening with St. Vincent’s?

KnoxfordGuy · #**15490** Posted **Jan 18, 2025, 9:59 PM**

Is there word on what it will be?

cdnguys · #**15491** Posted **Jan 18, 2025, 11:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by KnoxfordGuy

Is there word on what it will be?

Apartments.

DyAm00394 · #**15492** Posted **Jan 19, 2025, 12:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by bingun

I also grabbed some quick pics while I was up at Costco of the East Point development. Continue your speculation...

Building permits say "Phase 2 - construct new retail building" and "Phase 2 - complete construction of store". The current chatter is Northrup offices on the upper floor, commercial spaces on the ground floor.

EnvisionSaintJohn · #**15493** Posted **Jan 19, 2025, 1:10 AM**

That would be a pretty convenient location to live

bingun · #**15494** Posted **Jan 19, 2025, 8:38 PM**

I haven't seen this one mentioned much, and similar to yesterday, I was driving by, so I grabbed a few pictures. If you drive between Saint John and Sussex, this is visible from the highway in either direction.

Specifically, it is on Millenium Drive in Quispamsis, next to the OK Tire and the two apartment buildings.

EnvisionSaintJohn · #**15495** Posted **Jan 21, 2025, 5:32 AM**

Residents within 100 meters of the site have been receiving notice regarding the townhouse development at the Belyea Arena property. Supposedly it will be 89 units and the buildings will be between 1-3 storeys.

At 3 storeys, some of these units might have some decent ocean views.

Nearby residents are already complaining about the loss of greenspace with this proposal. A taller project across one or two high rises could have retained more greenspace and resulted in hundreds of ocean view units, and should have been what the city pushed held out for at this property. Nonetheless, this proposal is eons better than what Brent Harris wanted to do.

From the mailer:

“The proposal is to rezone property known as 400 Lowell Street (PID 00394940 and PID00471540), to Low-Rise Residential (RL) zone to permit the development of mixed residential units comprised of mixed 1, 2 & 3 story townhouse units developed in phases. The development concept will include buffer strips and community amenity space. The property will be subdivided to allow for phasing of the development.”

sailor734 · #**15496** Posted **Jan 21, 2025, 1:19 PM**

Seems like a reasonable proposal for the location and for the surrounding area.
Nice to see something other than apartment buildings. I'm assuming these are/will be owned units rather than rentals? It would be nice to see more entry level stuff built to help people get onto the property ladder and start building equity.

EnvisionSaintJohn · #**15497** Posted **Jan 21, 2025, 11:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by sailor734

Seems like a reasonable proposal for the location and for the surrounding area.
Nice to see something other than apartment buildings. I'm assuming these are/will be owned units rather than rentals? It would be nice to see more entry level stuff built to help people get onto the property ladder and start building equity.

It’s definitely refreshing to see something other than the typical 6 storey boxes being proposed. Not sure if they will all be rentals, owned, or a mix…still a huge opportunity missed for some high rise development with striking ocean views. The city should have given incentives and tried to find a developer that could have built high rises here. Still, this will be quite an influx of units for the West Side.

But did hear an update earlier today. There will be 43 townhouses: six— 2 storeys with two units and forty— 3 storeys with 4 units. So supposedly the grand total will be 215 units, which isn’t incredibly far off from the rumour floating around about 320 units.

The Developer is Canterbury Developments Ltd. and the Development is to be called, “Belyea Village”.

EnvisionSaintJohn · #**15498** Posted **Jan 22, 2025, 4:21 AM**

Pretty poor quality printout… can’t make out the labels on the buildings at all, but does clarify where the 3 storey buildings would be.

Rough estimate of the property highlighted & surrounding Bayshore area

The property is located very close to Bayshore Beach and surrounded by scenic ocean views, but I’m not sure how many of those forty 3rd floor units will actually have ocean views. Based on the diagram above, it seems as few as 17 of the third storey units will have decent views of the ocean. Seems like a bit of a missed opportunity considering the location and how large the property is.

Regardless, it’s great to see proposals to build more housing on this side of the harbour, especially considering Saint John West is being carved off the Saint John-KV federal riding and tacked onto the NB Southwest riding for its federal representation.

sailor734 · #**15499** Posted **Jan 22, 2025, 11:48 AM**

More lawsuits filed against that Moncton engineer for structural design flaws including issues at the new Aquarius Towers on the Westside.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-bruns...ne-theriault-match-engineering-1.7433162

DyAm00394 · #**15500** Posted **Jan 22, 2025, 2:13 PM**

PAC meeting updates from last night:

The Sunnyside Tiny Home Community proposal passed the PAC meeting last night. Entire committee voted in favour, despite there being quite a lot of people speaking against it in the public hearing.

Also, Irving's parking lot proposal at Wolastoq Park has passed. Committee has voted against staff's recommendation to deny the proposal. Only 3 of the members voted in favour of staff's recommendation.