Statistics Canada Reports II

[phone]

Originally Posted by lio45

”Greater Red Deer”. Canada’s #3 city after TO and Mtl

If we're playing that game, then "Greater Davidson" eclipses Hali :p

Davidson Sask, home to Canada's greatest A&W

(View is from 2009 -- unfortunately, a larger en-route style truck stop has popped up since then)

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by Wigs

MolsonExport, I applaud you for being one of the few forumers to spell St. Catharines correctly. However it is always written "St." and not the full word, "Saint".

Argh! After so many years of messing up the second part, I miss up the first part!

[Chinook Arch]

Originally Posted by niwell

Breakdown of housing stats are interesting, aside from the unsurprising fact we are still not building enough. We often hear on this forum about the lack of ground-related housing (SFHs/semis/rows) in the GTA but proportionally we are still building quite a bit more of this than Montreal - about 25% vs just over 10%! Vancouver falls somewhere in between at 17%. Calgary and Edmonton are up there at 53% and 57% respectively.

I'm interested to see where Calgary is next year in regards to rowhomes in particular. The last couple of years have been strong numbers for rowhomes, but 2025 could be even much stronger. Every corner of the inner city seemingly has a rowhome project u/c or one with a permit pending.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by Wigs

I'm amazed at how quickly Brampton and Surrey have both grown into gigantic suburbs. These two have to be among the largest suburbs in North America now.

It's worth noting that for Surrey, while the population estimate suggests 44,799 more people were added in the past year, CMHC data shows 4,539 housing completions, only 1,206 of them purpose-built rentals. So Surrey is barely growing faster in terms of housing than in the past 10 years, (39,600 housing completions), but the estimates of population growth (+170,000) are much greater.

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Argh! After so many years of messing up the second part, I miss up the first part!

This is the claimed reason

W.H. Merritt, whose wife was named Catharine, and who ran the first post office, renamed the town to St. Catharines to honour her after her death in 1796.

In 1852 here is a paper with the new spelling (St.Catharines )

Even after the 1850s residents were still spelling it wrong
https://www.stampcommunity.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=61897

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by jc_yyc_ca

There's no highly urbanized corridor between Calgary and Edmonton yet, but it's evolving as the town and cities and between the two cities have seen a fair bit of growth. Also lots of talk about HSR between the two cities.

HSR would be a fantastic addition to the corridor. I'd love to see it happen, especially if it could spur the folks out east to finally put one in between QC and Windsor (or at least, Montreal-Ottawa-Toronto, which should have been in place 20 years ago).

[craner]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Fun fact: there is no mountain in Mount Brydges. I don't even think there is any sizable hill.

Similarly there is no waterfall in “Great Falls, Montana”.

[Architype]

Originally Posted by phone

If we're playing that game, then "Greater Davidson" eclipses Hali :p

Davidson Sask, home to Canada's greatest A&W

(View is from 2009 -- unfortunately, a larger en-route style truck stop has popped up since then)

There's got to be a David Lynch or Coen Brothers movie in there somewhere.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/4KqfScmDYdSfMcp48

[craner]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

'Better city'?

Edmonton has Jasper, but yes, a bit more of a hike and as a result far less stupidity with crowds and a proper getaway.

Both offer a lot for a little, albeit Calgary's prices are getting up there. I predict it will hit $1,000,000 before I retire.

I see the bolded statement mentioned fairly often and it always makes me chuckle a little bit. It’s as if Edmonton has exclusive rights to Jasper and Calgarians are not permitted to come.
In fact Calgary is only a slightly longer drive to Jasper than Edmonton is (4:32H vs 4:06H according to the google). And I would argue the drive from Calgary is more scenic than the drive from Edmonton.

Anyway - just wanted to chime in that I love Jasper.

[jc_yyc_ca]

Originally Posted by Drybrain

From StatCan directly. Hours of data to pore through here.

Thanks Drybrain! A goldmine of stats

Looking at the big 6 metros, it looks like Cgy/Edm/Ott are in a similar situation with around 44% of the growth coming from non-permanent residents.
The big 3 are interesting with Montreal being as high as 90% of the growth coming from non-perm residents. Tor and Van are also up there.

Mtl 90%
Van 80%
Tor 79%
Cgy 44%
Edm 43%
Ott 43 %

I wonder if this explains Montreal's strong population growth while having low housing starts over the past two years?

[jc_yyc_ca]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

HSR would be a fantastic addition to the corridor. I'd love to see it happen, especially if it could spur the folks out east to finally put one in between QC and Windsor (or at least, Montreal-Ottawa-Toronto, which should have been in place 20 years ago).

Who knows, maybe in my lifetime it'll get built. At least it's being discussed, fingers crossed.

[jc_yyc_ca]

Some more random stats for the curious. The natural increase rates for the big six.

Tor 19,189
Cgy 7,578
Mtl 5,747
Edm 5,168
Van 4,897
Ott-Gat 2,394

These numbers didn't have a big effect on growth for the past couple of years, but could have more of an effect in the next few years as immigration slows.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by jc_yyc_ca

Some more random stats for the curious. The natural increase rates for the big six.

Tor 19,189
Cgy 7,578
Mtl 5,747
Edm 5,168
Van 4,897
Ott-Gat 2,394

These numbers didn't have a big effect on growth for the past couple of years, but could have more of an effect in the next few years as immigration slows.

"Natural increase rates" being?

[Rico Rommheim]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Argh! After so many years of messing up the second part, I miss up the first part!

That is a capitol mistake

[theman23]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

"Natural increase rates" being?

=Births-deaths

[Chinook Arch]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

'Better city'?

Edmonton has Jasper, but yes, a bit more of a hike and as a result far less stupidity with crowds and a proper getaway.

Both offer a lot for a little, albeit Calgary's prices are getting up there. I predict it will hit $1,000,000 before I retire.

Calgary has Jasper too, Jasper’s almost the same distance from Calgary as it is from Edmonton 😉 we get the best of both worlds.
The advantage of the mountains being near Calgary is more in that you can be in the mountains very quickly. People in Calgary can be hiking in the mountains in less than an hour, those in the SW can be less than 30 minutes. The short time is what makes all the difference. You can see them everyday and it allows people to go out to them on a whim.
It’s true Banff and Lake Louise are busy, but there are literally hundreds of other places within dm hour that aren’t busy. I’m not necessarily a fan of the busyness, but it has its upside in that Banff and Canmore also offer people a lot more options. You can have the quiet nature if you want and you can have the retail and tourist options if that’s the preference, and all within an hour or less.

[someone123]

Originally Posted by phone

If we're playing that game, then "Greater Davidson" eclipses Hali :p

I know this post is a joke but Southern NB, PEI, and Halifax function in roughly the same way as city pairs like Saskatoon-Regina or Edmonton-Calgary. PEI is hard to compare to the Prairies as a relatively dense area of farms and towns. It's sort of like a piece of the Fraser Valley, but on an island.

I guess the only other cross-provincial-border city pair like Moncton-Halifax is Ottawa-Montreal. There's even passenger rail service connecting Moncton-Halifax still, although it's not that useful most of the time. With Moncton-Halifax the corridor itself is also somewhat developed with small towns like Truro. Around 1 million people live along that corridor.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

'Better city'?

Edmonton has Jasper, but yes, a bit more of a hike and as a result far less stupidity with crowds and a proper getaway.

Both offer a lot for a little, albeit Calgary's prices are getting up there. I predict it will hit $1,000,000 before I retire.

I can understand the fact, that publicly you have civic pride, and do not want to admit Calgary is a better city. However, just about everyone that was not born in Alberta, has stated that they prefer Calgary. Even many Edmontonians privately say that Calgary is better.

As for the proximity to Jasper, it takes roughly 4 hours to commute from Edmonton, so it's questionable to say that "Edmonton has Jasper" when it takes that long to commute to. It only takes an additional 15 minutes to commute to Banff. Why go to Jasper, when Banff/Canmore is far superior? I also doubt home prices in Calgary will hit $1,000,000 in my lifetime.

[Cowtown_Tim]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

HSR would be a fantastic addition to the corridor. I'd love to see it happen, especially if it could spur the folks out east to finally put one in between QC and Windsor (or at least, Montreal-Ottawa-Toronto, which should have been in place 20 years ago).

I’d love to see it happen too but I have a feeling it won’t happen anytime soon. Montreal/Ottawa/Toronto makes more sense, we’ll have to wait in line.

[Architype]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

HSR would be a fantastic addition to the corridor. I'd love to see it happen, especially if it could spur the folks out east to finally put one in between QC and Windsor (or at least, Montreal-Ottawa-Toronto, which should have been in place 20 years ago).

Why would anybody be in such a big hurry to get from one Canadian city to another, when they are (mostly) pretty much the same thing?