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What's the reason you know this for sure? Were FXCollaborative just hired to do vision boards or something? That would be a shame, half the work is done... just buy this rockin design from them and get to work.

Apologies in advance if the answer is in the press release... I didn't read it.
That's not how the city does these things. That design is to show any potential developer what the city wants on that site. It's an example of how you can accommodate those units on that site. It's not a matter of issuing an rfp for a developer to build whatever they want - the city wants these housing units. Once a developer is selected to build on the property, they will do so with whatever firm they so choose to use, so long as it meets whatever is specified. There will likely be some design parameters, like with 5 WTC. But we're looking at at least a few years before something gets built on site. Besides the rfp process, the building is still occupied, and once it is cleared, it will have to be demolished. But FXCollaborative has done a lot of design work and produced renderings of planning within the city, including of course of the massive rebuilding of Penn Station.


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I have a friend working in upper management at HPD. Every relevant city agency is looking at this, and question is more when/how than if.
Every city agency was told last year to find city owned real estate that could be developed for housing. So expect more of these massive developments.
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Shorter, squater developments especially. Towers over 15 or 20+ floors like Baruch or Grant or Rangel or a slew of others likely aren't going anywhere, but infill could be skillfully added to their parklike grounds. Personally I dont have a desire to see all mid-century NYCHA projects dissapear, nor is that realistic. I quite like the looks a some of them in a nostalgic way.

Anyways, isn't Amsterdam Houses landmarked?
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Old Posted Jan 10, 2025, 10:56 PM
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^ A City of this size, with no available space to build, really should have been building denser long ago. It's a shame it took this long to even raise the FAR (which I think still isn't high enough).

Just look at the Southbridge towers complex that surrounds this site (9 buildings), and know that this site will hold more housing. Incredible.



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I don't think planners could have imagined housing in structures this tall back when that Mitchell-Lama development was on the boards.

EDIT: On a sidenote it would be great if some of these uglier public/quasi public developments below 14 St like the Southbridge Towers complex could receive new facades. They're ghastly.

I'm also curious if technically speaking, NOT practically speaking, but technically speaking if older housing towers that would be good candidates could actually be heightened. Nothing extreme, just maybe like 8, 10, 12 extra floors. From a purely engineering point of view I would be somewhat surprised if they couldn't, especially if lighter weight steel or even mass timber was used. Might be something the city should think about. Most residents could likely stay in their apartments if an innovative construction method was developed.
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^ Most probably wouldn’t want to.



https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2025/01/11/adams-pitches-housing-for-100-gold-street/

Mayor pitches 2,000 units for HPD’s home
Adams says 100 Gold Street will be redeveloped






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Jan 11, 2025


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During his State of the City address on Thursday, Mayor Eric Adams announced plans to turn the office building at 100 Gold Street into 2,000 homes.

The announcement was short on specifics, for this and other proposals. The mayor announced the project as part of a broader “Manhattan Plan,” an initiative he said would bring 100,000 new homes to the borough over the next decade. (I’ll have more on that proposal next week).

The Department of Housing Preservation and Development is headquartered at the nine-story building, where other city agencies, including the Parks Department, the Office of Collective Bargaining and the Department of Education also have some office space.

The building will likely be demolished to make way for the new housing, and the Department of Citywide Administrative Services will use the proceeds from the redevelopment towards either leasing or buying new office space for the agencies. A senior center in the building will also need to be relocated.

It is worth noting that this announcement comes as city office leases are facing heightened scrutiny.
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The city bought the building, which was constructed in the 1960s, in 1993 for $37 million (upwards of $80 million in today’s dollars), from Travellers Insurance Company. The agency had already long been leasing the top two floors in the nine-story building, the New York Times reported at the time. HPD’s predecessor agency (the Department of Housing and Urban Development, before it was split into two agencies in 1978) had also leased space in the building, alongside brokerage Prudential Bache, which moved out after the city bought the building.

The plan for Gold Street is a continuation of the mayor’s directive to agencies to identify public land that could be transformed into housing.

Rachel Fee, head of the New York Housing Conference, said the plans for the property are “symbolic of the extent of need for housing supply and the depth of our crisis.”
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Prominent location and close proximity to the Gehry tower... Also very close to the demolished New York World Building which was one of the worst losses of lower Manhattan next to the Singer building.





Be interesting if Pace University gets involved somehow
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Pace will eventually redevelop their property but I doubt it will have anything to do with this project.
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https://www.tribecatrib.com/content/huge-residential-tower-complex-announced-citys-gold-street-site

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A towering residential complex of more than 2,000 apartments will be built at 100 Gold Street, the site of what now is a 9-story city-owned office building, Mayor Eric Adams announced Jan. 9 in his State of the City speech.

The project would be located on a full block along Frankfort and Gold streets, opposite the Brooklyn Bridge, and rise high above the 27-story Southbridge Towers complex, which borders the site on two sides. A rendering shows two roughly 90-story skyscrapers and another tower of about 40 stories; those heights include what appears to be about an 8-story podium.
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Officials from the city’s Economic Development Corp. are expected to provide more information about the project at Community Board 1’s Executive Committee meeting on Jan. 23.

CB1 Chair Tammy Meltzer said she sees the huge development as a major opportunity for the community. Because the building requires the disposition of city land, the public will weigh in on what it wants to see as part of the project. The community board will play a major role in the process and Meltzer said that area of Downtown has many needs.

“I could think of like 12 things off the top of my head immediately that could be done,” she said at the board’s Land Use and Planning Committee meeting on Monday.

“If they’re going to redevelop it,” she added, “we have so many chances to make something really amazing in Lower Manhattan.”
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Whining already. The city is in a housing crisis, but by all means, keep dragging your feet. It's past time the city abolished these useless boards.


https://www.tribecatrib.com/content/cb1-...-giant-residential-tower-100-gold-street

CB1 Says Slow Down on Plans for Giant Residential Tower at 100 Gold Street








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Not so fast.

That’s Community Board 1’s message to city officials who are looking to build a towering, 2,000-unit apartment complex at 100 Gold Street, next to Southbridge Towers.

As part of Mayor Eric Adams’s initiative to create 100,000 apartments in Manhattan over the next 10 years, a nine-story, block-long building that now houses city agencies would be demolished and replaced by what, according to a rendering, is a three-building apartment complex that rises as high as roughly 90 stories. Few details about the “mixed-income homes,” as Adams called them, are known, such as how many apartments would be deemed “affordable” and what community amenities would come with such a huge project.
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But officials from the city Economic Development Corp., the lead agency on the project, last month released a planning timeline for the development that CB1 is calling “rushed.” That schedule calls for the city to issue a request for proposals (RFP) to developers this month, a target that leaves too little time for the community to have a say in the RFP through a promised needs survey and public meetings, CB1 said in a resolution passed late last month.

EDC officials appeared before CB1’s Executive Committee last month in the first public meeting about the project. Issuing the RFP in February, CB1 chair Tammy Meltzer told them, “definitely makes us know that you’re not actually interested in what the public thinks. Because once the RFP is out—and we have had this experience with [other city agencies], that’s the contract. Your framework’s done.” (In earlier discussion, city officials promised that the RFP would be issued at the end of the first quarter of 2025, CB1 said.)

Mikelle Adgate, an EDC vice president in charge of government relations, agreed to another public meeting on the project before the RFP is issued, as well as a meeting with concerned Southbridge Towers residents. A survey would also be issued, but she declined to commit to a delay in the proposal request. That, she said, “is obviously something that EDC cannot decide just on its own because we’re working with [the Department of Housing Preservation and Development], the mayor's office and others.”
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Proceeds from the sale of the city-owned lot at 100 Gold Street, a building the city says needs $200 million in repairs, would be used to purchase space for the displaced city agencies as well as a senior center in the building. What’s left over, officials said, would go towards affordable housing and “community needs.” It’s a plan that Melzer criticized as “giving us crumbs for affordable housing.” (The EDC said 25% would be the minimum number of affordable units in the building.)

Many Southbridge Towers residents fear the impact of the construction, and the building itself, once it goes up.

“What’s going to happen with the dust and with the noise if this in fact takes place?” said Southbridge Tower resident John Ost, pointing out that construction that is already going on nearby. “I think some serious environmental considerations have to take place.”

The loss of light, said Southbridge resident Coco Dorneanu, would be “absolutely devastating for this community.”

“I’m happy for development,” she said. “But we need light.”

Adgate of the EDC emphasized that an environmental study would be part of a lengthy city-mandated land use review, with public hearings. “So there’s a lot of time for us to be working together,” she said, “and I would really want to get us off on the right foot.”



Southbridge Towers resident John Ost said the area around 100 Gold Street is poorly suited for a major construction project. Next to him is Adam Sinovsky, board president of Southbridge Towers. Photo: Carl Glassman/Tribeca Trib
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These people are deranged. Move upstate if you hate development and housing.

Also, this looks about 800'-900' judging by 8 Spruce Street in the renderings. Surprisingly tall.
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Southbridge Towers resident John Ost said the area around 100 Gold Street is poorly suited for a major construction project.

What does this even mean? Idiots.
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F them, its a shame that Southbridge cant be razed and rebuilt
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Just typical NIMBY nonsense.
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Just catching up to the mayor’s announcement in the January State of the City address that he plans to sell 100 Gold in order to build 2000 units of housing at the site, a nine-story city-owned building just at the Manhattan footing of the Brooklyn Bridge. It’s a big deal and an even bigger building. Assuming an average apartment is 900 square feet, he’s talking about 1.8 million square feet just for the housing part, not to mention the other uses that would have to be in there.

The rendering above from the city’s Economic Development Corporation is just an illustration, but it is designed to show what *could* be on the site. For a little local perspective, 200 Chambers and 56 Leonard have around 500,000 square feet. One World Trade is 3.1 square feet.
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If everything goes to plan, the public review period will end this month, and the request for proposals will be released in March. A developer will be selected by end of year 2025; environmental review will take place in 2026; the city would find new spaces for the existing tenants in 2018 and have them moved by 2030, when construction would commence on the site.


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I will just never understand how anyone who chooses to live in Manhattan can complain about stuff like this. Move somewhere else if you care about light in your living room, Manhattan is not the place to live for you.
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That's the problem. Look at all of that crap. Just start building, like civilized folks in Japan or China. This shouldn't take 4 years for community engagement!

Just build it!

You want community engagement? How about a kick to the mouth. That's engagement! A kick to the mouth, and than get crews out to start building. Whole thing, an hour... max!
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lol southbridgers got the howard hughes development on water st chopped down to size — they will do the same here watch. you can bet they are already part of this delay. its full of retired people they got nothing better to do.
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lol southbridgers got the howard hughes development on water st chopped down to size — they will do the same here watch. you can bet they are already part of this delay. its full of retired people they got nothing better to do.
Private development vs. city owned land. This isnt getting cut, stop with the fantasies.
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Yeah, the local NIMBYs don't really have negotiating power. This doesn't require their approval.

Howard Hughes site was a dramatic zoning change for a site that had absurd (120 foot) building heights and was in a landmark district.
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One thing about the timeframe, the current building is still in use by the city. They have to move to another space, which itself is required to go through approvals. I wish they would be more aggresive here, especially considering construction alone will take a few years. But they do have to follow the process neccessary to get this done - and survive the inevitable lawsuits.
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