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Old Posted Dec 20, 2024, 4:18 PM
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https://azbex.com/planning-development/union-intimidation-alleged-in-axon-project/

Not shocking to see coming from these slimy big labor thug types. They only feel empowered thanks to the current weak leadership of the state....
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Old Posted Dec 20, 2024, 4:43 PM
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Not shocking to see coming from these slimy big labor thug types. They only feel empowered thanks to the current weak leadership of the state....
The chief allies of "these slimy big labor thug types" appear to be led by a former city council member who has long opposed development in Scottsdale. From the Republic's coverage, which I find easier to follow:

TAAZE is led by former Scottsdale City Councilmember Bob Littlefield and largely consists of conservative city residents who are opposed to Axon’s apartments. It’s an outgrowth of the anti-development fervor that has gripped Scottsdale politics recently and resulted in three incumbents losing their reelection bids.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/loc...t-with-axon-despite-denials/76944423007/

This has more to do with city politics than state leadership, and as with most controversies in Scottsdale, the battle is about density and development much more than partisan affiliation.
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Old Posted Dec 20, 2024, 4:49 PM
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Doesn't matter then Littlefield needs to be indicted and arrested...I doubt Mayes in all her wisdom will even look into this out of state quid pro quo scheme...
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Old Posted Dec 20, 2024, 7:55 PM
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Not shocking to see coming from these slimy big labor thug types. They only feel empowered thanks to the current weak leadership of the state....
These thug unions are working hard to inject themselves in AZ - they tried the same thing in Glendale with Prop 499. They hate competition and are willing to bully anyone who gets in their way. It should not be this difficult and take so long for Axon to develop their new HQ in this state. This is an embarrassment IMHO.
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Old Posted Dec 24, 2024, 1:52 PM
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Can we keep the 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 politics out of this, and all other development/city related threads? ?
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Old Posted Dec 24, 2024, 2:57 PM
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Can we keep the 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 politics out of this, and all other development/city related threads? ?
We try to keep politics out, but many project developments are the results of politics whether you like it or not. Frankly the past 2 years have shown a huge slowdown in the industry that cannot be denied due to politics and slower economy.
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Axon’s future in Scottsdale in flux amid referendum effort

🞵🞵🞵 is going on here? Axon saga continues in Scottsdale...

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2025/01/06/axon-s-future-in-scottsdale-up-in-the-air.html

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One of the Valley’s largest economic development projects may be in search of greener pastures.

Axon Enterprise Inc. CEO Rick Smith confirmed Jan. 6 that the maker of tasers and body-worn cameras is considering alternatives to Scottsdale for its planned mixed-use headquarters campus after project opponents last month gathered thousands of signatures in support of a referendum.

Smith also confirmed that Axon (Nasdaq: AXON) has postponed a groundbreaking ceremony that was set to be held Jan. 10.

"We put out notice today that we're going to cancel," Smith told the Business Journal. "It makes no sense to break ground on something that we don't have certainty we'll have the permits to build."

The $1.3 billion project, which is set to include nearly 2,000 residential units alongside restaurants, a hotel and Axon’s new headquarters building, was approved by Scottsdale City Council on Nov. 19.

Smith made it clear that Axon's strong preference is to move forward with those plans. But the headquarters campus is no longer a sure bet to rise in Scottsdale — especially if the referendum process drags beyond 2025.

"I think the odds of us waiting until 2026 are zero," Smith said. "There's a point where you've just got to move on."

Texas, Florida possible destinations for Axon
Smith cited Texas and Florida as potential destinations for Axon if the Scottsdale project doesn't ultimately move forward. He also noted that the company maintains a "sizable presence" in Atlanta, Boston, Washington, D.C. and Seattle — cities where the company may "decide to double down."

States and municipalities from across the country have been keeping tabs on Axon's efforts in Scottsdale over the past year, said the company's land-use attorney, Charles Huellmantel of Huellmantel & Affiliates.

"Other cities and states have been watching this carefully for the last year and keep in contact with us regularly, and we've certainly heard from all of them since the referendum process started," Huellmantel said.

Smith added that Axon would likely "close our Scottsdale operation and move on" if the headquarters campus isn't ultimately approved, which means Arizona could wind up losing one of its largest public companies. Another likelihood is that Axon would sell the roughly 70-acre site where it intends to build its mixed-use vision. That site is currently zoned for industrial uses.

Axon has spent years working through city channels to get the corporate campus project approved. The final package included a 23% reduction in the number of residential units contemplated by the project, along with a major road realignment to offer a buffer to the nearby Stonebrook II neighborhood, the removal of a controversial roundabout, increased setback distances and upgraded landscaping.

The project is expected to generate a direct economic impact in the city of $4.6 billion over 10 years, according to Scottsdale Economic Development Director Teri Killgore.

Smith also made clear Jan. 6 that Axon will not consider proceeding with its Scottsdale headquarters campus if the residential units — which have long been a concern of some residents — are not part of the project.

"I can't build half the campus. My board won't approve it," Smith said. "This campus doesn't work if we don't have the ability to do this as an integrated project."

How the referendum process works
Nearly 27,000 signatures in support of a referendum were submitted to the city of Scottsdale on Dec. 21, confirmed Kelly Corsette, the city's communications and public affairs director.

The city began the required statutory verification process on Dec. 23 and has 20 business days to complete the effort, which calls for Scottsdale to review each of the 2,292 petition sheets to ensure they are completed and correctly notarized, among other steps. Any incorrect sheets or signature lines are then removed.

"If the total number of remaining signatures equals or exceeds the minimum required number of signatures, the City Clerk is responsible for selecting a 5% random sample of the total signatures for verification by the County Recorder," Corsette wrote in a Jan. 6 email.

The Maricopa County Recorder would then have 15 business days to complete its signature verification process. If at least 15,353 valid signatures remain at that point, the city is required by the Arizona Constitution to put the ordinance on the November 2026 General Election ballot. City Council could also call a special election before then, Corsette said.

Axon officials will be closely watching to verification process. Huellmantel acknowledged Jan. 6 that the referendum likely won't go before voters until at least November 2025.

"There's been a lot of talk from the incoming Council of pushing this to November of '26 as opposed to November of '25, but we don't control that process," Huellmantel said.

Bob Littlefield, a former Scottsdale City Council member and chairman of Taxpayers Against Awful Apartment Zoning Exemptions, supported the effort to gather the referendum signatures.

“To be clear, TAAAZE is not opposed to Axon building a new headquarters in Scottsdale. That’s what was originally promised and that’s what was originally approved," Littlefield said in a Dec. 23 statement about the referendum. “But if keeping Axon in Scottsdale means capitulating to ... the largest apartment complex in city history, that’s not going to happen."

Littlefield could not immediately be reached for additional comment before this story was published.

Axon is one of the fastest growing public companies based in Arizona, with growing its market cap by more than 140% in 2024. As of Jan. 1, Axon’s shares had a total market value of more than $45 billion.

Axon’s stock slipped during regular trading hours on Jan. 6, ultimately closing down 5% to $570.71 for a total market cap of around $43.5 billion.
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2025, 5:32 PM
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Why does it have to be Texas or Florida if not Scottsdale? Why aren't other local communities like Phoenix, Tempe, and Chandler trying to lure Axiom if the opposition in Scottsdale is insurmountable?
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These tough guys at Axon are making idle threats. It all started when they bought a parcel from State Land that was not zoned for residential (and therefore paid a much cheaper rate) and then pivoted to wanting multifam on it. So people are pissed and it's not just anti-apartment types. I'm not opposed to mixed use at all... but this whole thing stinks.
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These tough guys at Axon are making idle threats. It all started when they bought a parcel from State Land that was not zoned for residential (and therefore paid a much cheaper rate) and then pivoted to wanting multifam on it. So people are pissed and it's not just anti-apartment types. I'm not opposed to mixed use at all... but this whole thing stinks.
This is the attitude that will get Axxon to move. For some reason the residents and government in Scottsdale insist on antagonizing them despite just trying to build an office campus off the 101 in a suburban area.
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2025, 8:57 PM
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Phoenix or Peoria should be throwing them land West of the TSMC plant...well not literally. But there's plenty of available real estate that could entice Axon to stay in the area.
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Why does it have to be Texas or Florida if not Scottsdale? Why aren't other local communities like Phoenix, Tempe, and Chandler trying to lure Axiom if the opposition in Scottsdale is insurmountable?
I know it's an unlikely and complicated site with the abatement required, but I feel like this type of development would be perfect for the former Coyotes site on Rio Salado in Tempe.

Crazy how Scottsdale residents want to turn away such a massive corporate investment in their city. What's so bad about some apartments and restaurants right up against the 101?
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Yeah...way to go Scottsdale!!! First the Coyotes arena and now AXON. Who's next?
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This is what happens when you pander to the dumbest nimby groups like protect Scottsdale.
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I know it's an unlikely and complicated site with the abatement required, but I feel like this type of development would be perfect for the former Coyotes site on Rio Salado in Tempe.

Crazy how Scottsdale residents want to turn away such a massive corporate investment in their city. What's so bad about some apartments and restaurants right up against the 101?
Because they're 80 year old snowbirds with nothing better to do. They think they can chase off all development and somehow revert everything back to open desert and just their own homes. Short sighted. Jokes on them - this is zoned industrial and if Axon doesn't develop it, it will just ultimately be changed to be warehouses like around Deer Valley Airport. Hope they enjoy that view...

I agree - just take it to 101/Scottsdale on the PHX side and rub it in the NIMBY faces.
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This is what happens when you pander to the dumbest nimby groups like protect Scottsdale.
I even had this discussion with my Dad who normally isn't a nimby but the scuttlebutt among the retired scottsdalians is that this HQ is some sort of abomination and they all seem very happy to kill it.

something has gotten into the rumor mill up there that this is some sort of monstrosity despite being a pretty cool campus in an otherwise empty patch of dirt near the 101 it wont eve block sitelines or damage existing neighborhoods.

The hatred for it baffles me.
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2025, 9:49 PM
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I even had this discussion with my Dad who normally isn't a nimby but the scuttlebutt among the retired scottsdalians is that this HQ is some sort of abomination and they all seem very happy to kill it.

something has gotten into the rumor mill up there that this is some sort of monstrosity despite being a pretty cool campus in an otherwise empty patch of dirt near the 101 it wont eve block sitelines or damage existing neighborhoods.

The hatred for it baffles me.
Maybe they think George Soros is funding it or that's it the new Comet Ping Pong. Kooky conspiracy theories are no longer something to be ashamed of these days.
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Because they're 80 year old snowbirds with nothing better to do. They think they can chase off all development and somehow revert everything back to open desert and just their own homes. Short sighted. Jokes on them - this is zoned industrial and if Axon doesn't develop it, it will just ultimately be changed to be warehouses like around Deer Valley Airport. Hope they enjoy that view...

I agree - just take it to 101/Scottsdale on the PHX side and rub it in the NIMBY faces.
My daughter works for Axon. This seems like a very cool campus, and it's much needed, for employee housing and office space.
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I even had this discussion with my Dad who normally isn't a nimby but the scuttlebutt among the retired scottsdalians is that this HQ is some sort of abomination and they all seem very happy to kill it.

something has gotten into the rumor mill up there that this is some sort of monstrosity despite being a pretty cool campus in an otherwise empty patch of dirt near the 101 it wont eve block sitelines or damage existing neighborhoods.

The hatred for it baffles me.
LITERALLY probably the design and architecture. Ancients oftentimes, especially when of conservative leanings, of reflexively against contemporary arts and design.

Idiots with no taste - they would probably have supported the development if it was some terribly scaled kitsch neo-colonial 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵.

Like someone else said - they cut their own nose to spite their face and will likely get tilt slab concrete walls as far as the eye can see instead. Good.
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