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Old Posted Nov 12, 2024, 4:36 PM
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They also need to fight the perception that downtown is unsafe. Advertising can go a long way to fighting the 'boring' label, but it will take significant changes to make people want to go downtown to events. I fear that more of the things to do will be away from the core.

Years ago, a fellow I know drove his daughter and her friends down to the By Ward Market for a function. He found getting into the market area was easy, but leaving was not. Every time he thought that he could drive out to a main street, he would be stopped by a One Way street. The labyrinth got him so frustrated that, apparently, he went the wrong way down a street to get out. (For which I shook a finger at him and “Tsk, Tsk”ed.) He actively refuses to go downtown any more. Luckily his daughter doesn’t want to go either. From the sounds of it, the young ladies found the market to be too “Sketchy” for their comfort. They still go and do things, but not in the By Ward Market.

I do understand that family’s feeling. It takes little to turn a person off of something that they were not super keen about. I’m not a person who spends hours shopping at a mall. (I’m more of a ‘Gorilla-Shopper' – Get in; Get the goods; Get out.) Since Bayshore redesigned their parking structure, I very rarely go there – much less than I used to. The ramp in the middle means wasted time and gas going around a big ‘dead zone’ in the middle. It means that I need to make more turns at more intersections, increasing the chances of a collision with other confused drivers. I now will drive much further to similar stores.

Once a place has been tagged as ‘undesirable’, it is very hard to remove that tag.
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I also avoid the market. I don't feel particularly unsafe but find it incredibly depressing being around so many homeless people and drug addicts. I also try not to drive down King Edward for the same reason.
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'Downtown champions table' and a 'vibrancy office' cited as next steps in downtown revitalization

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https://obj.ca/downtown-ottawa-next-steps-downtown-revitalization/
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This is a very Ottawa approach. Revitalize the downtown by hiring a bunch of bureaucrats.

I would rather they would focus on making downtown more hospitable: cleaning, bylaw enforcement, lighting, holiday decorations, policing, etc.

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This is a very Ottawa approach. Revitalize the downtown by hiring a bunch of bureaucrats.

I would rather they would focus on making downtown more hospitable: cleaning, bylaw enforcement, lighting, holiday decorations, policing, etc.
I had the same reaction.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2024, 4:33 PM
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Big words do not always lead to big results. "We will launch the vibrancy office in the beginning and it will serve the champions table. It will calibrate action items in the plan and communicate them to the community."
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This is a very Ottawa approach. Revitalize the downtown by hiring a bunch of bureaucrats.

I would rather they would focus on making downtown more hospitable: cleaning, bylaw enforcement, lighting, holiday decorations, policing, etc.
Really? You don't think that all of the most vibrant cities in the world are the result of good work by vibrancy offices?
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Agree. I'd rather see small but consistent improvements instead all of these committees and plans and strategic visions that never come to fruition.
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How about a Sunday flea market (Ok, maybe 7 months of the year). How about unrestricted busking? Maybe support pop-up shops? How about dance classes in public spaces (works well in other cities). A Speaker's Corner? More music venues (folk, jazz?) How about a few used/antiquarian book shops in a "book district", with regular public readings? How about an international street food hall?

Seems like there's quite a few things that work in other cities that Ottawa could try. We don't need to reinvent the wheel.
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This calls for another round of SOPA!
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This calls for another round of SOPA!
What is that?
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How about a Sunday flea market (Ok, maybe 7 months of the year). How about unrestricted busking? Maybe support pop-up shops? How about dance classes in public spaces (works well in other cities). A Speaker's Corner? More music venues (folk, jazz?) How about a few used/antiquarian book shops in a "book district", with regular public readings? How about an international street food hall?

Seems like there's quite a few things that work in other cities that Ottawa could try. We don't need to reinvent the wheel.
This time of year it is especially noticeable. While most of the world (including many non-Christian countries) have their downtowns all decked out for the holidays, downtown Ottawa and the market have a sad little smattering of Canadian tire decorations, possibly from the 1980s (although I guess there are some non downtown locations like Lansdowne and Wesley Clover that are better). Central Tashkent, Uzbekistan is more festive than Ottawa in the holidays.

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And the building that burned down on William St. near York St.,
how long ago already and still nothing there?
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I was at the Distillery district on Tuesday in Toronto and it was crazy busy even during the middle of the day.

The large statement Christmas tree, Christmas music blasting everywhere, little shops, sweet treats, pop-up activation, etc.. it was pretty remarkable. We could do so much better with downtown, sparks & the Byward.

Something as little as speakers around the Byward playing music, is that not a thing?
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2024, 2:56 PM
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I seem to remember more Christmas lights downtown as well. Someone once told me they had to share the Christmas budget across Ottawa instead of focusing most of it downtown. No idea if there is truth in it but, from when I moved to Ottawa vs now - the quantity of lights downtown / city hall park/ war memorial/ parliament / etc definitely feels greatly reduced.
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I was at the Distillery district on Tuesday in Toronto and it was crazy busy even during the middle of the day.

The large statement Christmas tree, Christmas music blasting everywhere, little shops, sweet treats, pop-up activation, etc.. it was pretty remarkable. We could do so much better with downtown, sparks & the Byward.

Something as little as speakers around the Byward playing music, is that not a thing?
I was in the Byward Market last Sunday afternoon.

There was definitely music playing but it was some kind of non-descript hiphop from a DJ. Not sure if it was organized and official or informally busker-ish.

Anyway, it wasn't very Christmassy.
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This calls for another round of SOPA!
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Here's what Ottawa's nightlife revival council discussed at its 1st meeting
Volunteer council part of Ottawa's plan to reverse sleepy nightlife image

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Posted: Dec 23, 2024 3:47 PM EST | Last Updated: December 23


An online promotion campaign and nighttime safety plan topped the agenda at the first meeting of Ottawa's new nightlife council, members say.

The meeting earlier this month gave newly-appointed nightlife councillors an opportunity to meet and discuss the city's first nightlife action plan, member Eric Vance told CBC's Ottawa Morning on Monday.

Vance, who is also a drag performer and co-owner of Glittershaker Events, said it's important for Ottawa to have a central online resource for event promotion.

"We hear a lot of the time, that event sounded so great but we really didn't know it was happening," Vance said. "I think the online resource for promotion … that's a really great way for people to find out about events."

Vance is part of the new team of volunteer nightlife councillors assembled by the City of Ottawa and nightlife commissioner Mathieu Grondin in an effort to reverse Ottawa's image as the "city that fun forgot."

The nightlife council was greenlit last year as part of a nightlife action plan to develop and promote a "more vibrant, diverse, inclusive, viable, safe, and well-managed nightlife."

Vance said in addition to larger organizations such as Ottawa Tourism, members representing "the little guys who make some really great stuff happen" also appeared.

Rachel Weldon, director of Ottawa arts non-profit Debaser, attended the meeting.

Although Weldon acknowledged that some people might be fatigued by family commitments during the holidays, she said nightlife can still thrive.

"Everybody's budget is a little bit stretched tighter this time of year, and they have other social events," said she said. "But there is also a spirit of celebration in the air."

Like Vance, Weldon often works on smaller scale events that range up to 1,000 people.

She hopes by bringing a voice for those events to the nightlife council, she can help artists and cultural workers carve out a better career in nightlife.

"We're looking for a better industry for the people who participate in it, who make it run," she said.

With files from CBC's Ottawa Morning

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-nightlife-council-meeting-1.7417915
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If promotion and safety are at the top of the agenda instead of actual ideas on how to make nightlife more interesting and vibrant, I don’t have high expectations on what they’ll achieve. You can promote the heck out of it but if what’s on offer is boring, it’s not going anywhere.
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If promotion and safety are at the top of the agenda instead of actual ideas on how to make nightlife more interesting and vibrant, I don’t have high expectations on what they’ll achieve. You can promote the heck out of it but if what’s on offer is boring, it’s not going anywhere.
I had the exact same impression...
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