NEW YORK | HDSN (418 11th Ave) | FT | 70 & 40 FLOORS

[DCReid]

Originally Posted by ChiND

NY Guy,

Have you seen any height figures for this tower?

It appears to be as tall as 3 HY (i.e., about 985’).

As it's all residential with a large affordable component, I would not be surprised if it is in the 800 foot range. I think the visuals are to show the details of the building rather than the perceived height.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by DCReid

As it's all residential with a large affordable component, I would not be surprised if it is in the 800 foot range. I think the visuals are to show the details of the building rather than the perceived height.

If that's the case, then it will likely be taller. I wouldn't be surprised to see this one top 1,000 ft. Brooklyn Tower has a large affordable component. As does the planned residential on the Lower East Side. 5 WTC would likely be taller and a supertall if not for the strict height limits at the WTC. Of the 1,200 units planned there, a full third (400) will be affordable. Here, of the total 1,349 residential units, 404 will be affordable. Comparable, but a slightly less percentage than 5 WTC. HDSN will have roughly a full 150 units more than 5 WTC, itself at 920 ft.





https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/24/nyreg...r-saw-in-new-yorks-migrant-shelters.html

A 72-story apartment tower across from the Javits Center.





By James Barron
Dec. 24, 2024

It will be the first residential development in 60 years with a floor-area ratio above 12. Floor-area ratio refers to a calculation that determines the potential density of a building site. Housing law changes passed by the State Legislature several months ago lifted the limit from 12.

The ratio will be 18 for the new tower, according to a spokesman for the economic development agency. If the limit had not been relaxed, only 900 apartments could have been built there, and only 270 of them would have been affordable. The affordable units will be scattered throughout the building, and the people who live in them will have the same access to amenities as those in the market-rate apartments.

The agency noted that the lot was one of the last state-owned parcels in Manhattan, which made it a prime spot for housing. Construction is expected to start in 2028, after the $1.35 billion project has gone through the state’s environmental review process — which critics say is less rigorous than the city’s.

“Hudson Yards is one of the places where this kind of density is actually possible and will be commensurate with the height and bulk of some of the other buildings,” Elizabeth Goldstein said last week before she retired as president of the Municipal Art Society. The cap, she said, “if it was going to be raised, should have more conditions than the Legislature and the governor ultimately decided to put on it.”

[ssh]

Originally Posted by NYguy

If that's the case, then it will likely be taller. I wouldn't be surprised to see this one top 1,000 ft. Brooklyn Tower has a large affordable component. As does the planned residential on the Lower East Side. 5 WTC would likely be taller and a supertall if not for the strict height limits at the WTC. Of the 1,200 units planned there, a full third (400) will be affordable. Here, of the total 1,349 residential units, 404 will be affordable. Comparable, but a slightly less percentage than 5 WTC. HDSN will have roughly a full 150 units more than 5 WTC, itself at 920 ft.





https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/24/nyreg...r-saw-in-new-yorks-migrant-shelters.html

A 72-story apartment tower across from the Javits Center.





By James Barron
Dec. 24, 2024

As long as it's 985ft

[mrnyc]

^ not a fan of this row of boxy bases trend, but i like this building.

not really concerned about height here -- only that it looks to be pretty sharp looking.

[NYguy]

Not too concerned about height here either, other than the fact that too many of the HY towers are of similar height. That deadens the skyline. But at least it won't be another blue box. Given the length of time before construction begins, I wouldn't bet on this particular rendering being the final product. But speaking of that, Hochul wants to make this all about needed housing, but it's not expected to even begin until 2028! Which means housing in the 2030's. And that's just the first phase (it will supposedly be followed by a hotel). No sense of urgency to get anything done, but that's become expected.

[Mulan]

Known as "HDSN", and targeting LEED Gold certification, the development will consist of a 72-story, east tower, and a 28-story, west tower, connected by a 5-story podium.

The east tower will contain 1,349 residential apartments, with approximately 404 (30%) of the units to be dedicated to affordable housing. The west tower will consist of a 455-room hotel. The podium floors will contain the Climate Museum and a number of cultural, educational, and community facilities. The development will also feature a 60,300-square-foot, Life Time fitness and wellness center. The center will span 4-stories and in addition to offering fitness programs will include an outdoor swimming pool and a roof terrace.

https://www.bldup.com/posts/development-team-selected-for-1-35b-hudson-yards-project

[NYguy]

I still have not seen a rendering where you can see the hotel portion of the project. But it’s interesting that the other proposals combined into a single tower, while the current project will be two towers on a shared base. The increase in allowable residential FAR is what allowed this to be primarily a residential development.


https://w42st.com/post/in-a-first-for-th...um-planned-in-hells-kitchen-development/

The development, named HDSN and pronounced “Hudson,” will include 1,349 residential units, 404 of which will be permanently affordable at 60% area median income ($93,180 for a family of four) and 130% area median income ($201,890 for a family of four).

At last night’s full board meeting (Monday), Manhattan Community Board 4 chair Jessica Chait expressed her excitement for the project.

“The board should be incredibly proud of this accomplishment,” she said. “Included in this is the commitment for all of the things this board has advocated for.” That includes the integration of affordable units across all of the building’s floors, and a variety of unit sizes from studios to three-bedroom apartments.

Chait added MCB4 had been concerned that the inclusion of a hotel and other facilities could hold up the housing development if its financing fell through. The Empire State Development Corporation required “that the housing move forward regardless of the hotel financing. So I think we all can feel very good about them delivering on the commitment and on the priorities of this board and of the community,” she said.

The western part of the development must build around an existing Lincoln Tunnel air shaft which currently features a mural by Dutch artist SuperA. Photo: Phil O’Brien

[Mulan]

If the financing fails, it could take even longer (longer than 4 years) for something to happen here. It's just an empty plot like many others in the area.

[Busy Bee]

The western part of the development must build around an existing Lincoln Tunnel air shaft which currently features a mural by Dutch artist SuperA. Photo: Phil O’Brien

Ventilation plant for the (7) Flushing Line not the Lincoln Tunnel.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Ventilation plant for the (7) Flushing Line not the Lincoln Tunnel.

SShhhh. Don't tell them that. They also think a 12 FAR means you can only build 12 floors.

[Mulan]

A museum devoted to climate change, which has hosted pop-ups in New York for six years, has secured a location for a permanent home in the city’s Hudson Yards neighborhood. The Climate Museum will be sited in a 24,000-square-foot facility at 418 11th Avenue. Construction will begin in 2026; opening is slated for 2029.

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/new-york-climate-museum-permanent-location-2595240

[ssh]

Originally Posted by Ahoi

A museum devoted to climate change, which has hosted pop-ups in New York for six years, has secured a location for a permanent home in the city’s Hudson Yards neighborhood. The Climate Museum will be sited in a 24,000-square-foot facility at 418 11th Avenue. Construction will begin in 2026; opening is slated for 2029.

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/new-york-climate-museum-permanent-location-2595240

Guess we have our timeline. I recall others saying it wouldn't begin until 2028 though.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by ssh

Guess we have our timeline. I recall others saying it wouldn't begin until 2028 though.

I wouldn't take a timeline posted in artnet as anything serious. If the state has said it wouldn't begin for three years (after who knows when their approval kicks off), I would go with that.

[Mulan]

Ild infos:

https://esd.ny.gov/sites/default/files/r...d-Preliminary-Design-Javits-Platform.pdf

https://esd.ny.gov/sites/default/files/rfp/Javits-Addendum-5-MTA-Site-K-Vent-Building-Drawings.pdf

[rgarri4]

from my 3d model. Not 100 percent on what the west facing side looks like.

[NYguy]

https://commercialobserver.com/2025/08/hilary-spann-bxp-2025-343-madison/

BY ISABELLE DURSO
AUGUST 5, 2025

We also are in pre-development entitlement work on Site K, which we were awarded in December. That will be 1,300 units of residential and potentially a 400-key hotel as well, and that’s right across the street from the Javits Center and immediately north of our site at 3 Hudson Boulevard. So we have a lot going on on the development front right now.

[NYguy]

Finally (and slowly), the wheels begin to move for both 418 and 495 11th Avenue...although I will say I don't know how much of this is now necessary given Hochul's announcement that residential projects will no longer have to undergo environmental review...












































https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/let-the...orms-cut-red-tape-and-build-more-housing

Let Them Build: Governor Hochul Unveils Landmark Reforms to Cut Red Tape and Build More Housing and Infrastructure


Jan 13, 2026

“New York has always been a place of boundless ambitions: from the Erie Canal to the Empire State Building. But for too long, unnecessary red tape has stood in the way of new housing and critical infrastructure.” Governor Hochul said. “If local leaders want to deliver new investments for their communities, I say ‘Let Them Build.’”

Studies have quantified how State-mandated environmental review can slow down housing projects by an average of two years, costing hundreds of thousands of dollars per project, at a time when New Yorkers can least afford the wait for the housing they need to continue to live and thrive in New York.

To speed up the development of housing to create a more affordable and sustainable New York, Governor Hochul will propose to amend the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) to exempt certain types of housing projects that have no significant impacts on the environment, which are still subject to local zoning, from additional SEQRA review.

.....In New York City, the State will set caps on the size a building must be to avoid the requirement of additional SEQRA review, with caps varying on the basis of the density of the neighborhoods as determined by the City. In the rest of the state, to avoid additional SEQRA review, housing projects must be on previously disturbed land, connected to existing water and sewer systems, and subject to additional unit caps.

https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/new-york...ZddC6epxcSNOFMdCKtSkthovYWAy_SVocg%3D%3D

New York State to Loosen Environmental Rules to Speed Up Homebuilding
Review process can add two years and hundreds of thousands of dollars in costs to housing projects


By Rebecca Picciotto
Jan. 13, 2026

New York is preparing to loosen its environmental law to make it faster and cheaper to build housing in the state, the latest government effort to tackle high housing costs as affordability becomes a centerpiece of this election year.

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul on Tuesday proposed new reforms to exempt the majority of housing projects from the State Environmental Quality Review Act, or Seqra. State lawmakers would need to approve the reforms.

[NYguy]

Another state development that's dragging its feet. But an update from today's meeting....

[NYguy]

https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2026/04...ction-permits-of-the-week-march-27-2026/

In Manhattan’s Chelsea-Hudson Yards neighborhood, the Hudson Boulevard Collective filed plans to construct two towers across 1.7 million square feet at 548 and 550 West 36th Street. The structures will house 1,758 residential units. Daniel Kaplan is the architect.

From the filings:

Total Building Square Footage 1,361,541

High-Rise Determination (BC 202) - What is the distance between the highest occupied floor and the lowest level of fire department vehicular access?
748 Feet

Project accepted to Development Hub per consultation on 3/20/26. Application is for the construction of a 70-story Mixed use building building

Dwelling Units (Building) 1458

Hotel portion:

Total Building Square Footage 293,047


High-Rise Determination (BC 202) - What is the distance between the highest occupied floor and the lowest level of fire department vehicular access?
387 Feet

Dwelling Units (Building) 300

[NYguy]

https://www.pincusco.com/dob-multifamily...s-in-march-highest-in-12-years-pincusco/

DOB multifamily filings surge to nearly 12K units in March, highest in 12 years




548 and 550 West 36th Street

April 3, 2026