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Old Posted Dec 13, 2024, 3:30 PM
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It certainly is true. However as an aside from Mack Urban which is American, in general I'm going to be more skeptical of the Chinese owned proposals, for a variety of reasons.
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Old Posted Dec 13, 2024, 4:44 PM
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Mack Urban had big plans and owns almost the entire block. IIRC they were teaming with AECOM. But wasn't it reported by multiple sources that Mack Urban was trying to sell their remaining undeveloped parcels even before the pandemic? Or was it all except this one?
     
     
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After Los Angeles County bought a skyscraper, a fight over whether to tear down its historic headquarters


Los Angeles County’s headquarters, the Kenneth Hahn Hall of Administration, was completed in 1960 in the downtown Civic Center. (Genaro Molina / Los Angeles Times)

Roger Vincent
Los Angeles Times
December 13, 2024

With the ink dry on Los Angeles County’s $200-million purchase of the Gas Co. Tower office building downtown, a fight is brewing over what to do with the 1960s-vintage headquarters it plans to leave behind.

Supervisor Janice Hahn and preservationists are pushing back against a plan to move workers into the newly purchased skyscraper on Bunker Hill and raze the Kenneth Hahn Hall of Administration, which was renamed after Hahn’s father and is a centerpiece of the government-oriented Civic Center neighborhood.

“It came as a big shock to me when I realized what was happening,” she said, blaming county administrators for quietly pushing through what she called a closely held plan to move the seat of county power and thousands of workers, then knock down a prominent public building. “I thought it was a little bit of a secretive process, a little bit of they knew what they were doing but didn’t exactly reveal it,” she said.

County officials, however, plan to start moving staff from the Hall of Administration and other county buildings into the downtown skyscraper next summer, the start of a process that could take three or four years.
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Los Angeles County’s $200-million purchase of the Gas Co. Tower in downtown L.A. is complete and county workers are slated to start moving in next summer. (Myung J. Chun / Los Angeles Times)
     
     
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Tear that 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 🞵🞵 🞵🞵🞵🞵 down immediately
     
     
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They should tear it down and connect Grand Park more seamlessly with the Cathedral. That would be great for both.
     
     
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Tear it down. Make Grand Park bigger. Everyone wins.
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https://la.urbanize.city/post/city-planning-commission-approves-bjarke-ingels-designed-670-mesquit




The city planning Commision approved this yesterday. Not sure how much more red tape/ steps there are after that. Urbanize has locked their site behind a paywall.


This with the Onni project and the 4th Central project will make that area very hot and trendy, even more than now.

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These types of projects in terms of size and scale are honestly what LA needs. I would rather have 3 or 4 of this type of infill development than any singular skyscraper any day of the week. All the more reason for that Arts District metro stop.
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Love it, hope it happens.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2024, 5:03 AM
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Yeah, that Arts District proposal is slick! Who is the developer?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 16, 2024, 2:16 AM
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These types of projects in terms of size and scale are honestly what LA needs. I would rather have 3 or 4 of this type of infill development than any singular skyscraper any day of the week. All the more reason for that Arts District metro stop.
I agree 100%. Especially on that side of downtown and etc. Would be great to see development like this fill the gap between KTown and Downtown.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/wh...d=3c80a0b53e93456197fa90a0f3438eb9&ei=18

Also a rather odd article about how a Casino might be the saving grace for MacArthur Park. Because. You know. What could POSSIBLY go wrong putting that in a neighborhood already with a few too many issues. I hate the Gentrification word but MacArthur Park would be my one exception. Tear down anything not historic, rehab the theaters and hotels. Build new mixed use housing. Give it the Arts district/Silverlake treatment. But. A casino sounds like a terrible idea.

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Why else would we buy the skyscraper for any reason other than to avoid rehabbing the Hahn building. She needs to get over herself. There is much better use for that land.

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Why else would be buy the skyscraper for any reason other than to avoid rehabbing the Hahn building. She needs to get over herself. Theres much better use for that land.
Exactly--tear down Hahn Hall. It is not worth the cost of retrofitting and updating. I would have no problem with the County eventually building a replacement for Hahn Hall in the civic center and selling the skyscraper to make a big profit, but if downtown real estate doesn't turn around I like the idea of county offices in a really nice skyscraper.
     
     
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That plot of land could easily fit housing and park expansion.
     
     
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Hey all, haven't posted in a while but I came across a Youtube video from City Beautiful explaining DTLA's small footprint and thought I'd share, how true is this take?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oboDigfMrJU&t=443s&ab_channel=CityBeautiful
     
     
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Hey all, haven't posted in a while but I came across a Youtube video from City Beautiful explaining DTLA's small footprint and thought I'd share, how true is this take?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oboDigfMrJU&t=443s&ab_channel=CityBeautiful
One of the comments on that video is so true. “Your facts are outdated, shame on you!”
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1950 Avenue of the Stars

1950 Avenue of the Stars, the future headquarters of Creative Artist Agency and Clearlake Capital, making a massive impact from (the very festive) Century City Mall.

     
     
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I think we have rare unanimous agreement here - tear down the Kenneth Hahn Hall of Administration!

Maybe even consider tearing down the Hall of Records too since the Gas Company tower is so big.

Expand the park!
     
     
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Huge Arts District project clears hurdle on path to construction


A rendering shows the 670 Mesquit project in Los Angeles’ Arts District. The $1.4-billion development would include housing, offices, a hotel, shops and restaurants. (Bjarke Ingels Group)

Roger Vincent
Los Angeles Times
December 17, 2024

A long-planned $1.4-billion real estate development at the foot of the newly famous Sixth Street Viaduct in downtown Los Angeles is closer to getting underway after receiving approval from the city Planning Commission.

The four-building mega development known as 670 Mesquit will have apartments, offices, a hotel, a charter elementary school, shops and restaurants if the City Council signs off on the plans to replace a cold storage facility on the west side of the Los Angeles River with the mixed-use complex designed by Danish architect Bjarke Ingels Group. Developer Vella Group is prepared to start work in about a year and a half and plans to complete the project by 2031, land use consultant Michael LoGrande said.

LoGrande represents Vella Group and the Gallo family, the longtime owner of the Rancho Cold Storage facility on Mesquit Street that will make way for the new development that will rise as high as 34 stories. Plans call for 894 apartments, of which 144 will be offered at below-market rates for low-income households — a scale that would make it one of the largest residential projects to be built downtown. The boutique hotel will have 271 rooms and should garner a four-star rating, LoGrande said.


A rendering of the $1.4-billion mixed-use project 670 Mesquit in Los Angeles’ Arts District, which would include housing, offices, a hotel, shops and restaurants. (Bjarke Ingels Group)

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