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Originally Posted by Crawford
Also, this discussion reinforces my view that "dirty/clean" isn't about garbage or dirt but appearances of order. Homelessness has nothing to do with whether a city is clean or dirty. And I don't agree that if I walked down, say, Halstead in Chicago, and compared to a similar arterial in Boston or LA or wherever, there would be less garbage and grime.
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Hard disagree with this- Chicago is not nearly the same level of dirty as other major American cities. Even Chicago's most struggling neighborhoods have a level of cleanliness far above that of say LA or the similar neighborhoods in the East Coast Cities. I live in Philadelphia right now (used to live in Chicago), and I can say without a doubt that Philly is disgusting. The level of trash just strewn throughout the city is unacceptable. It is not the same as Chicago- not even close. Most of the examples you gave were from the Loop- I'd expect there to be more trash there (still less trash than downtown LA by a mile). My brother lives in Palms in LA- the amount of trash he encounters compared to Chicago on a daily basis is far, far higher. Like Steely said, the alleys hide most of it away. Based on my experiences I think you're dead wrong.
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