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Thanks for the wealth of knowledge Norman and lrt's friend!

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The RCMP HQ was originally built to be a seminary. The cornerstone was laid in 1949 and the RCMP took possession in 1953. I believe the building was too expensive for the Catholic diocese. Another seminary opened on Carson Road in 1955 and the main seminary opened in 1957 on Kilborn Avenue near Bank
The one on Carson, is that what is today part of La Cité Collégiale (well, the round chapel at least)?
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The RCMP HQ was originally built to be a seminary. The cornerstone was laid in 1949 and the RCMP took possession in 1953. I believe the building was too expensive for the Catholic diocese. Another seminary opened on Carson Road in 1955 and the main seminary opened in 1957 on Kilborn Avenue near Bank
Thanks for the info. I definitely thought the seminary was older than that.
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[QUOTE=11a2b3;10260416]Long gone Queensway-Tremblay Road flyover.


Wow, noting but fields where the baseball stadium is now and into Overbrook... that's where the city ended!
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Thanks for the info. I definitely thought the seminary was older than that.
There was an earlier convent nearby on Presland where the recent apartments are built at the corner of the Vanier Parkway but that was separate. As far as I know, the RCMP location was vacant prior to 1949.
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Long gone Queensway-Tremblay Road flyover.


Wow, noting but fields where the baseball stadium is now and into Overbrook... that's where the city ended!
Here's some more cool pics of area from a Cultural Heritage Report on Vanier Parkway Overpass:








https://queenswayexpansioneast.com/repor...203-069%20Hwy%20417%20UMcA%207.19.11.pdf
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Perhaps it's the nostalgia of the b/w but as a road / hwy construction enthusiast what a time to be alive!
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Too bad we don't have the same enthusiasm and drive to build transit today as we did for highways in the 50s and 60s.
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Too bad we don't have the same enthusiasm and drive to build transit today as we did for highways in the 50s and 60s.
Probably because your average city dweller will always prefer the autonomy of a highway (car) versus relying on transit.
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How Rideau Hall (accidentally) became the home of the governor general
160 years ago, Lord Monck, scrambling for a place to live, leased the 11-bedroom private estate of the late stonemason and Bytown pioneer Thomas MacKay.

David C. Martin
Published Aug 26, 2024 • Last updated 2 hours ago • 3 minute read




It was the summer of 1864, and the government of the old Province of Canada was readying itself to relocate from Quebec to the colony’s newly selected capital. Queen Victoria had made her choice several years earlier and, as construction of the Parliament buildings was nearly complete, it was finally time to make the move to Ottawa.

But one aspect of capital statecraft had been neglected. While a contract for the construction of a Government House at Nepean Point — a would-be crucible for executive power — had been awarded back in 1859, virtually no progress had been made on the project. With the governor general expected to take up residence in Ottawa, alongside the rest of the government, something had to be done — and fast.

A stopgap measure was found to accommodate Lord Monck when, on Aug. 2, 1864, he leased the 11-bedroom private estate of the late stonemason and Bytown pioneer Thomas MacKay. “MacKay Castle,” also known as Rideau Hall, and 80 acres of surrounding land, were let out by MacKay’s son-in-law, Thomas Coltrin Keefer, for the annual sum of $4,000.

While the building was impressive by the standards of mid-19-century Ottawa, the small Regency villa still required significant enlargement. By January 1865 the joint legislature of the two Canadas (East and West) had approved a budget of $110,000 to expand the main building three or fourfold. That expenditure, only begrudgingly granted, was about half of what was ultimately needed complete the project.

In its earliest days, the house and its location imposed a great deal of strain on Monck’s ability to perform his vice-regal duties. Canada’s first post-Confederation governor general complained bitterly about the pitiable road linking Government House to Parliament Hill. Only in winter, when snowfall provided adequate packing, was the road considered even bearable. In summer, Monck resorted to organizing a six-man rowing crew to ferry him to and from official engagements via the Ottawa River.

In 1868, the Canadian government finally purchased MacKay Castle for $82,000. In the decades since, Rideau Hall has grown from an unwanted, temporary and ill-thought-of outpost, far from the heart of Ottawa officialdom, into what Romeo LeBlanc termed “Canada’s Home.” Every governor general since Confederation, with the likely exception of Julie Payette, has made Rideau Hall his or her primary home.

Despite being enlarged and expanded multiple times over the years, elements of MacKay’s original design still endure. One of the three doors to his dining room, for example, today opens into the antechamber of the famous Tent Room, the second to the Long Gallery, and the third, to the outside grounds. Likewise, the second floor’s main oval drawing room, with its marble fireplace and thistle-encrusted plasterwork, are today part of the King’s bedroom and royal suite, where the monarch stays whenever in residence.

Today, it is in the Government House ballroom that each new Prime Minister, and his or her cabinet, takes the oath of office. It is here, often in the same ornate chamber, that foreign diplomats must formally present their credentials before assuming their posts. And it is within these hallowed halls that the service and sacrifice of both soldier and civilian are recognized with state honours like the Order of Canada.

From its humble and uncertain beginnings, 160 years ago, Rideau Hall is today a prominent fixture of the Canadian state, both past and present. With its remarkable history and enduring purpose, Ottawa is blessed to still have this particular gem in its crown.

David C. Martin is a historian and writer focused on bringing historical background and context to contemporary events.

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Could put this in a few spots. Thought about ottawa then and now or even lebreton flats.
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Sparks Street's history includes a hidden 'commode'
Urban folklore says there's a Victorian-era public toilet buried at the intersection of Sparks and 'Connor streets, says Andrew King, who sets out to see if the tale of the toilet is true.

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https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/king-sparks-streets-history-includes-a-hidden-commode
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This story was in Andrew's blog for a while. I did some research in the newspaper archives and confirm that there were public washrooms at that location from 1914 to 1929. I saw the 1909 photo so there must have been something there before the announced 1914 opening. Why did they close? That also is an interesting story. There were a couple of reasons noted. First sanitary related to shared soap and towels. I guess this was before the availability of liquid soap dispensers and paper towels. Second, the Bank of Montreal wanted to construct a new building (still present) at this intersection but considered the public washrooms unsightly. The bank won although someone attempted to get an injunction in late 1929 but this failed. If you go there today, there is two pieces of street art strategically placed likely where the washroom entrances once were located. A curious piece of Ottawa history
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Is this the same building?

Or this one?

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Neither. That building was on the northeast corner of the intersection and has long ago been replaced. The current building is post war vintage. You can see in the 1909 photo that the street is going uphill towards Wellington.
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If my math is mathing, this should be right in front of Bello Uomo. There's a couple of manholes and one of those fibreglass covers overtop of something there.

Pretty sure during excavation for the building they would have destroyed the toilet Too bad. Could have revived it for the $800k washroom project that's just re-re-re-re-re started.
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Yes, where Bello Uomo is. There are two concrete decorations on O'Connor which may cap the washroom entrances. There were naturally two washrooms, one on each side of O'Connor. The Bank of Montreal was built in 1930 as noted on the front of the building. The building in the 1909 photo was replaced at the end of the 1960s and was named La Promenade which included two floor retail arcade of small stores that opened in November 1970. As I recall there was a staircase from the middle of Sparks Street that accessed the second floor. This concept failed and the second floor entrance was removed. A 1928 air photo shows something on both sides of O'Connor about where the current concrete decorations are located but there is not sufficient resolution to pick out detail .
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Neither. That building was on the northeast corner of the intersection and has long ago been replaced. The current building is post war vintage.
You can see in the 1909 photo that the street is going uphill towards Wellington.
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I'm sad to report that Robert Smythe, also known as Mid-Century Modernist, author of Urbsite and founder of Centretown Buzz has passed away.

He has given us a wealth of resources that help us understand the history of Ottawa and many of its buildings. He will be missed.

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