Atlantic Canadian Politics Thread

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

I think the Green Party is going to be especially strong in the 4-5 ridings where they have a shot in hell. The Liberals are running a former MP against Arseneau in Kent North, but is it really enough to beat the incumbent green who’s won the last two elections? I have to imagine the Greens are pulling out all the stops to keep Kent North, but will it be enough?

I think Kent North could end up being the closest riding in the election, because I think the Liberals have a slightly harder time running against a Green incumbent than a PC incumbent. The Liberals have a much easier case against PC incumbents and seats vacated by the exodus of anti Higgs PCs, and there’s around 8-11 swing seats that the Liberals could win over the PCs. If they can win even five or six of these Holt win the election, and I think they could realistically win as many as nine or ten of them, even with with the Greens retaining their three seats, or even four if they can pull off a huge upset against the PCs in Fredericton North.

I think the PCs are in for a pretty resounding loss on Monday night.

[KnoxfordGuy]

The Greens are definitely going to have a higher portion of the popular vote but not sure if it will translate to seats. My parents are hard core Liberals and they told me mater-of-factly that they are voting Green this election.

[sailor734]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/auditor-general-audit-all-gc-strategies-contracts-1.7359418

ArriveCan?......Adscam? Kind of rhymes.

Seems appropriate somehow........... Sort of keeping up Liberal traditions.

Easy to see why Holt ran as "Team Holt" rather than as a Liberal.

[drewber]

Originally Posted by sailor734

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/auditor-general-audit-all-gc-strategies-contracts-1.7359418

ArriveCan?......Adscam? Kind of rhymes.

Seems appropriate somehow........... Sort of keeping up Liberal traditions.

Easy to see why Holt ran as "Team Holt" rather than as a Liberal.

"GC Strategies and its predecessor have been awarded 118 contracts totalling $107M since 2011"

Started under harper's regime. I assume no one did any due diligence in the 13 years since then

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by sailor734

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/auditor-general-audit-all-gc-strategies-contracts-1.7359418

ArriveCan?......Adscam? Kind of rhymes.

Seems appropriate somehow........... Sort of keeping up Liberal traditions.

Easy to see why Holt ran as "Team Holt" rather than as a Liberal.

Over 100 million in contracts since 2011, eh?

[sailor734]

So, Liberal caucus meeting today? A handful of grumblers who go and sit down when they are told to or the start of a real push for Trudeau to go?

I'm going with the former.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by sailor734

So, Liberal caucus meeting today? A handful of grumblers who go and sit down when they are told to or the start of a real push for Trudeau to go?

I'm going with the former.

JT has lots of levers of power and control over the malcontents. Not much will ultimately happen.

JT is going to ride the Liberal Titanic to the bottom of the ocean.

It will be a deep plunge. I'm rooting for a Kim Campbell type collapse.

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

JT has lots of levers of power and control over the malcontents. Not much will ultimately happen.

JT is going to ride the Liberal Titanic to the bottom of the ocean.

It will be a deep plunge. I'm rooting for a Kim Campbell type collapse.

I agree. When you are as far down as JT what's the downside of hanging on and hoping for a miracle? I of course mean downside to yourself, not to anybody else in your party.

I honestly think there are a certain number of Liberal MP's who might survive the next election with a new leader who will be defeated in their ridings under Trudeau.

By refusing to limit the draconian powers given to the leader the way the CPC did the Liberals have only themselves to blame for being in this position as a party.

[TitleRequired]

Originally Posted by sailor734

I agree. When you are as far down as JT what's the downside of hanging on and hoping for a miracle? I of course mean downside to yourself, not to anybody else in your party.

I honestly think there are a certain number of Liberal MP's who might survive the next election with a new leader who will be defeated in their ridings under Trudeau.

By refusing to limit the draconian powers given to the leader the way the CPC did the Liberals have only themselves to blame for being in this position as a party.

Good marketing by the mutiny crowd. The petition is titled "Code Red"

https://archive.ph/XFgNr

[TitleRequired]

When does Wayne Long get excommunicated?

[TitleRequired]

Mckenna suggests Trudeau should go.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/if-it-we...a-on-whether-trudeau-should-go-1.7087829

[drewber]

Originally Posted by TitleRequired

Mckenna suggests Trudeau should go.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/if-it-we...a-on-whether-trudeau-should-go-1.7087829

Trudeau's dad stepped down in June prior to a September election and the lhberals still got destroyed in the election. I think the longer he waits the worse its going to get. 2025 could be the most lopsided election in modern times. He needs to think of the party not his ego.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by drewber

Trudeau's dad stepped down in June prior to a September election and the lhberals still got destroyed in the election. I think the longer he waits the worse its going to get. 2025 could be the most lopsided election in modern times. He needs to think of the party not his ego.

He needs to go by the end of the year, or else. When do they usually get their first snowfall of the year in Ottawa???

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by TitleRequired

Mckenna suggests Trudeau should go.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/if-it-we...a-on-whether-trudeau-should-go-1.7087829

The difference (AFAIR) is that McKenna said from the start that 10 years was as long as anyone should lead a government and he stuck to that. Trudeau seems to want to cling to power as long as possible at any cost.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by sailor734

The difference (AFAIR) is that McKenna said from the start that 10 years was as long as anyone should lead a government and he stuck to that. Trudeau seems to want to cling to power as long as possible at any cost.

McKenna had options. He's a lawyer by trade, and built a lot of credibility as a competent administrator while Premier. He has a well paying gig as deputy chairman of TD Bank.

JT has no options. He was a drama teacher before his political career ,and he has built a reputation as an incompetent manipulator as PM. No one will want to hire him. He is much more like Shawn Graham than Frank McKenna. Graham was unemployed for several years after leaving politics. He finally got a gig as a low level trade envoy in China (a crumb tossed to him by the federal Liberals). I'm not sure what he is doing now.

[TitleRequired]

The Higgs government failed the people of New Brunswick by never providing an explanation for shutting down a credible and thorough investigation into what is clearly a serious situation.

https://archive.ph/KS9KT

I strongly doubt the decision was politically motivated, but is simply a disagreement between self-regulated professionals. It will be interesting to see if this goes anywhere; and if there is any new evidence to support reopening this file.

Government would have been held to maintain privacy of confidential information. The g&m should know this…

[TitleRequired]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

McKenna had options. He's a lawyer by trade, and built a lot of credibility as a competent administrator while Premier. He has a well paying gig as deputy chairman of TD Bank.

JT has no options. He was a drama teacher before his political career ,and he has built a reputation as an incompetent manipulator as PM. No one will want to hire him. He is much more like Shawn Graham than Frank McKenna. Graham was unemployed for several years after leaving politics. He finally got a gig as a low level trade envoy in China (a crumb tossed to him by the federal Liberals). I'm not sure what he is doing now.

When you’re financially independent, you don’t need options. Just past times. Like surfing the waves in tofino, and appearing on Canada’s drag race.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by TitleRequired

When you’re financially independent, you don’t need options. Just past times. Like surfing the waves in tofino, and appearing on Canada’s drag race.

The Trudeau “fortune” isn’t that big. The money is mostly gone. This however hasn’t prevented JT from becoming a “champagne socialist.”

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

The Trudeau “fortune” isn’t that big. The money is mostly gone. This however hasn’t prevented JT from becoming a “champagne socialist.”

Do you think he could score some kind of an appointment with the UN or some other international body (big title/little job sort of thing) or is he considered too much of a lightweight?

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by sailor734

Do you think he could score some kind of an appointment with the UN or some other international body (big title/little job sort of thing) or is he considered too much of a lightweight?

Don't know. JT has burned some bridges internationally, and, as you say, he is now seen as a lightweight with no real clout to deal with serious international issues.

Who would listen to him? His activism and virtue signalling would make him anathema to many authoritarian third world countries. He now has enemies in China, India and Russia - all powerful countries that would actively campaign against him. The USA does not view him seriously whatsoever.

I suppose a position in a minor UN agency like UNESCO might be made available.