BC Political Discussion: Election 2024 & 43rd Parliament - Page 37

casper · #**721** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 1:19 AM**

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So the high turnout in advance voting is offset by low election day turnout :/ that's lame

Hard to tell what the impact will be. The South Coast/Vancouver area is hard hit with rain. The north not that much.

Lets hope its the conservative voters that don't like going out in the rain.

logicbomb · #**722** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 3:07 AM**

Advance voting favours conservatives it seems...

logicbomb · #**723** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 3:14 AM**

The NDP are getting killed.

casper · #**724** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 3:21 AM**

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The NDP are getting killed.

Early numbers have a lot of small polls. Now its getting a bit more balanced. NDP with a small lead.

Migrant_Coconut · #**725** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 3:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by logicbomb

The NDP are getting killed.

Never EVER call any election within the first ten minutes of counting.

logicbomb · #**726** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 3:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Never EVER call any election within the first ten minutes of counting.

Amazing job by the Cons to pick up a lot of support in Surrey and Richmond. They did do a good job connecting with immigrants and like I said, a lot of newcommers tend to vote blue.

madog222 · #**727** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 3:52 AM**

The Greens taking West Van - Sea to Sky would be huge for them and could have a major impact on the overall outcome.

Migrant_Coconut · #**728** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 3:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by logicbomb

Amazing job by the Cons to pick up a lot of support in Surrey and Richmond. They did do a good job connecting with immigrants and like I said, a lot of newcommers tend to vote blue.

By the same token, a lot of those immigrants will have been directly affected by Covid… and the antivaxxer cranks can’t keep their opinions to themselves. The Cons better do some house cleaning before 2028.

chowhou · #**729** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 3:57 AM**

Very interesting biggest upsets as of 8:56 look like Vernon-Lumby going orange and Surrey North going blue.

Migrant_Coconut · #**730** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 4:03 AM**

Kelowna is orange… for now. That usually doesn’t happen.

whatnext · #**731** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 4:04 AM**

Congratulations to Green leader Sonia Furstenau on losing her seat.

logicbomb · #**732** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 4:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Congratulations to Green leader Sonia Furstenau on losing her seat.

I get the premise behind her wanting to be an independent party but her reluctance to cede several close swing ridings between the Cons ans NDP may cost her party a chance of being relevant.

whatnext · #**733** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 4:18 AM**

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Kelowna is orange… for now. That usually doesn’t happen.

Thanks to the bitter BC United candidate running as an independent.

casper · #**734** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 4:26 AM**

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Thanks to the bitter BC United candidate running as an independent.

Not at all. What the BC United did was undemocratic and arrogant. You don't setup a party to run, enlist candidates, then announce your going to suspend the party and decide for everyone who they should vote for. I for one was planning to vote BC United, but there was no way I was going to vote Conservative, so NDP it is.

Good on him for standing up for democratic values.

But it is tight. We may well end up with a conservative government, with fewer seats than the NDP.

I think we should expect the Greens to be willing to work with the NDP and let the conservatives fall in a non-confidence vote.

whatnext · #**735** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 4:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by casper

Not at all. What the BC United did was undemocratic and arrogant. You don't setup a party to run, enlist candidates, then announce your going to suspend the party and decide for everyone who they should vote for.

Good on him for standing up for democratic values.

But it is tight. We may well end up with a conservative government, with fewer seats than the NDP.

I think we should expect the Greens to be willing to work with the NDP and let the conservatives fall in a non-confidence vote.

He and Adam Walker on the island helped ensure the election of a party they fought against for four years. They should be very proud.

Still, nice to see NDPers Jinny Sims and Nathan Cullen sent packing.

It’s amazing that Vancouver-West End voters keep sending candidates like Spencer Chandra-Herbert provincially and Hedy Fry federally and get virtually nothing in return.

casper · #**736** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 4:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

He and Adam Walker on the island helped ensure the election of a party they fought against for four years. They should be very proud.

Still, nice to see NDPers Jinny Sims and Nathan Cullen sent packing.

It’s amazing that Vancouver-West End voters keep sending candidates like Spencer Chandra-Herbert provincially and Hedy Fry federally and get virtually nothing in return.

The Conservatives were just to right wing for many.

The Conservatives also lacked credibility as stewards of the environment given the position of their leader.

However, clearly 43% of the population disagree with me.

chowhou · #**737** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 4:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by casper

The Conservatives were just to right wing for many.

The Conservatives also lacked credibility as stewards of the environment given the position of their leader.

However, clearly 43% of the population disagree with me.

It's interesting you say this, because I noticed that the BC Greens are looking to maintain 2 seats from the last election but with half the popular vote they had from the last election (15.1% -> 8.3%).

logicbomb · #**738** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 4:59 AM**

Regarding Richmond and Surrey....it came down to not addressing drugs, pushing SOGI 123, and pissing off property owners. These were quite the discussion points in the South Asian community in Surrey. I knew it would play out like this there and the demographics are continuing to change with many newcomers moving there that are traditionally very conservative.
and basically want zero government involvement in their matters.

If the NDP form a coaltion...they will have to back off with rental restrictions, avoid all discussions when it comes to identity politics and take a hard stance on open drug usage.

casper · #**739** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 5:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by chowhou

It's interesting you say this, because I noticed that the BC Greens are looking to maintain 2 seats from the last election but with half the popular vote they had from the last election (15.1% -> 8.3%).

As I say, 43% of voters disagree with me.

The NDP have done a reasonable job of advancing decarbonization while still not putting the economy at risk. It is not perfect but it is balanced.

In some of the Victoria ridings the NDP came in first followed by the Greens. The Conservatives were a distant third.

chowhou · #**740** Posted **Oct 20, 2024, 5:09 AM**

My current takeaway from watching the results and the closest districts:

Surrey districts are a lot closer than everyone expected and they're going to get a lot more stuff.

The North Shore districts are a lot less closer than everyone expected and they're going to get a lot less stuff.

There's a real chance that the originally BC Conservative promised Newton Skytrain comes before a North Shore Skytrain now.