Manitoba | Highways

[Glenn99]

Originally Posted by HydraY

Google Maps has no idea how to deal with St. Mary's Overpass

I think it's been fixed.

[1ajs]

Also to note those pudles on that bridge at 5-8inches deep taring into the wood deck if u didnt slow done u will damage ur car this bridge is a ongoing constant mess of cold pack patches that fail everytime it rains

[bodaggin]

After 1ajs mentioned the Lynn Lake bridge myself and others did some research on the Northern Road network. With some design, demographic, and construction ideas. Super top level.

It's a big project that needs clever ideas to slash costs. But it's kind of quietly in motion. Curious if others have better ideas, local knowledge, or prioritization ideas based off the data.

https://stroadz.glide.page/dl/d0a5f4/s/c0a8e8/r/7IbU0nwDVOR7QuUQQ3fq

[1ajs]

thatsa central mb and needs roads bad. proper survays need be done as these winter roads dont tend to fallow the eskers and hard ground witch plagues the 394 with its areas that are at water level in the swamps and its closed most of the time cause theres no one to keep up with maintince and the provinces wount pay to build it back up since it goes into sask

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

its the longest free standing bridge in manitoba as well

and for the last several yrs theres been a slated next year for rehab posting on their map but nothings ever happend such poor planning with the mine about to start construction........ and the supper B's of lime that come up all summer and still comming up atm

IIRC that one is being replaced. Or rehab. There was an RFP some time ago for engineering work on a major bridge in the north and I thought it was that one.

[cllew]

I see the Lynn Lake bridge issue made the 5pm CTV news.

I thought only the Free Press had somebody peeking in here from time to time for news ideas?

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

IIRC that one is being replaced. Or rehab. There was an RFP some time ago for engineering work on a major bridge in the north and I thought it was that one.

Been discussion ongoing with that bridge and rfp's going back a few years now. Rakowski won a bid to tare it down i was told by tristen but never happened. Few years back as part of a replacement rfp that never made it past design.

And to add to the issue Highways is short staffed. And they only have access to cold pack stock pile thats getting to be 2 yrs old now i beleave so its not holding up as well specialy when we get rain. And untill the waters gone from that mess it aint going to fix anything were getting closer and closer to frost season been a warm september

Ill be driving over that bridge tomarroww so ill get a first hand look at this. That bridge is an ongoing constant cat and mouse game of patching for the crew

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by cllew

I see the Lynn Lake bridge issue made the 5pm CTV news.

I thought only the Free Press had somebody peeking in here from time to time for news ideas?

It was all over fb since last week as well and someone localy may of contacted ctvy

[1ajs]

Crew patched it with cold pack in the rain was already crumbing when i drove back to lynn

[jmt18325]

Why are they redoing Highway 10 from Brandon to Highway 25 already?

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by jmt18325

Why are they redoing Highway 10 from Brandon to Highway 25 already?

prolly done wrong?

like 391 from thompson to nelson house where its falling apart and its only 3 4 yrs old

[craner]

Originally Posted by Carboy15

I personally think Highway 16 and 1 need an interchange way more than this. But an interchange should get built there soon. I wish Canada would come up with a National Freeway System analogous to the Interstate or Autobahn. A federally funded Highway system. Yes, we have the National Highway system, but what the heck is that? It has no national standards at all. Canadian Highways are still in the US Route days (like Route 66). Ontario 400 Highways and Autoroutes of Quebec don't count as a National Freeway system. We need it Nationwide

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Agreed.

I mean we have one friggin coast-to-coast highway, and we can't even fully twin it, let alone, make it a limited-access freeway. We're supposed to be one of the richest countries in the World. Considering the terrain the the TCH passes through, and the need to safely transport goods and cargo, one would think this would ahve been completed in the 1960's.

Agreed x2.
I feel the same frustration with this.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by craner

Agreed x2.
I feel the same frustration with this.

Ditto.

The reason that roads are the jurisdiction of the provinces is the constitution of canada (or at least that would be what is cited to justify letting the provinces take care of their own roads). In reality, at least one system should be federally mandated as rising to the level of national importance (an exception to the rule that property and civil rights or matters of local import are the exclusive jurisdiction of the provinces). I can imagine that the government of Canada should identify a core system of critical trade routes as being of national importance (including at least one contiguous coast to coast corridor) and take the steps necessary to get it done. I believe we are the only G7 country that does not have some form of national expressway system.

[jmt18325]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

prolly done wrong?

like 391 from thompson to nelson house where its falling apart and its only 3 4 yrs old

Doesn't seem to be falling apart to me. Maybe it's part of the program to increase load limits? The same will happen to 227 that was just redone west of PTH 6.

[bodaggin]

In addition to nationalizing the TCH, and pre-designated trade corridor should be established at the Federal Level. All land agreements, routes, and royalties pre-negotiated.

Say 2km wide. From BC tidewater deep into Sask/MB. Or even cross Canada.

If any pipeline, powerline, rail line, data line, highway, or any other trade medium wants to build; it gets rubber stamp approval. No protests or permissions because everything is pre-agreed.

Just keep stacking lines inside this corridor.

[Runt]

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Don't worry 1ajs, MTI is spending $35 million to fix the Highway 34 bridge over the Assiniboine, with 250AADT and alternate options 20km on each side.

... Instead of fixing critical sole access points to northern communities and their GDP contributing mines, like this bridge.

Ohh our MTI are such shrewd capital allocators.




Gotta call this comment out....
those 250 vehicles are mostly commercial.

I know that my company crosses 6-10 feed trucks a day over that bridge.
The value of 1 load is anywhere between 65,000 and 100,000 CDN Dollars.
We also cross 7-10 loads of hogs.
Average value of those loads are 70,000 to 85,000 per load.
That's in the neighborhood of 1.2 / 1/5 Million dollars a day.
This is not counting our competitor in Brandon, with their Feed/Hogs or
the numerous grain hauling outfits in Western Manitoba.
The Value of goods going over that bridge-- Daily-- easily justify the fix!

Its 32 KMS to Hwy 5, and this does not account for Spring RD conditions that force everyone further west to HWY 10. Hwy 34 and for that matter Hwy 5 should be RTAC highways. Extra mile mean extra fuel and in trucking those miles add up.
We need that 34 bridge fixed.

Traffic counts should not be the only metric to RD infrastructure.

[FactaNV]

Originally Posted by Runt

bodaggin bodaggin is online now
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Join Date: Sep 2017
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Don't worry 1ajs, MTI is spending $35 million to fix the Highway 34 bridge over the Assiniboine, with 250AADT and alternate options 20km on each side.

... Instead of fixing critical sole access points to northern communities and their GDP contributing mines, like this bridge.

Ohh our MTI are such shrewd capital allocators.




Gotta call this comment out....
those 250 vehicles are mostly commercial.

I know that my company crosses 6-10 feed trucks a day over that bridge.
The value of 1 load is anywhere between 65,000 and 100,000 CDN Dollars.
We also cross 7-10 loads of hogs.
Average value of those loads are 70,000 to 85,000 per load.
That's in the neighborhood of 1.2 / 1/5 Million dollars a day.
This is not counting our competitor in Brandon, with their Feed/Hogs or
the numerous grain hauling outfits in Western Manitoba.
The Value of goods going over that bridge-- Daily-- easily justify the fix!

Its 32 KMS to Hwy 5, and this does not account for Spring RD conditions that force everyone further west to HWY 10. Hwy 34 and for that matter Hwy 5 should be RTAC highways. Extra mile mean extra fuel and in trucking those miles add up.
We need that 34 bridge fixed.

Traffic counts should not be the only metric to RD infrastructure.

Good point.

[bodaggin]

Originally Posted by Runt

I know that my company crosses 6-10 feed trucks a day over that bridge.
The value of 1 load is anywhere between 65,000 and 100,000 CDN Dollars.
We also cross 7-10 loads of hogs.
Average value of those loads are 70,000 to 85,000 per load.
That's in the neighborhood of 1.2 / 1/5 Million dollars a day.
This is not counting our competitor in Brandon, with their Feed/Hogs or
the numerous grain hauling outfits in Western Manitoba.
The Value of goods going over that bridge-- Daily-- easily justify the fix!

Its 32 KMS to Hwy 5, and this does not account for Spring RD conditions that force everyone further west to HWY 10. Hwy 34 and for that matter Hwy 5 should be RTAC highways. Extra mile mean extra fuel and in trucking those miles add up.
We need that 34 bridge fixed.

Traffic counts should not be the only metric to RD infrastructure.

And would you like to know the value of potatoes that runs down Highway 5 across TCH to McCain's on a daily basis? Far more. Plus the value of lives.

Highway 242 is only 16km to the East. What's the origin and destination of your trip?

[Mr Tall Forehead]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

And would you like to know the value of potatoes that runs down Highway 5 across TCH to McCain's on a daily basis? Far more. Plus the value of lives.

Highway 242 is only 16km to the East. What's the origin and destination of your trip?

I have no skin in this discussion and don’t think I’ve ever travelled either highway, but based on his comments (feed, hogs, competitor in Brandon) I suspect the destination of his trips is the Hylife plant in Neepawa. If so, the value of the product arriving and leaving that site is an order of magnitude greater than the potatoes and fries leaving Carberry.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by bodaggin

And would you like to know the value of potatoes that runs down Highway 5 across TCH to McCain's on a daily basis? Far more. Plus the value of lives.

Highway 242 is only 16km to the East. What's the origin and destination of your trip?

that 16kms can turn into 30-100km round trip pritty quik. and when u have big trucks... u cant just take any roads some are restriced and then u get weight reductions at times it can force u to add 100km to ur round trip or more pritty quick.



sigersons supost to be replacing a bridge at cockeram creak on the 391 8miles from town finaly starting next month. that one is heaved up so u have to slam on ur breaks if u dont know about it going south or risk destroying ur struts and ball joints from hitting the 6in sharp rise with ur tires where the road meets the bridge
highways finaly put some cold pack to ramp it this yr but it keeps shifting up