Statistics Canada Reports II

[haljackey]

London's city proper population expected to be at the cusp of 500k in 2025



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/lo...rowth-here-s-what-could-change-1.7344780

[davidivivid]

https://statistique.quebec.ca/fr/fichier...ec-et-regions-2021-2071-edition-2024.pdf

The Institut de la Statistique du Québec has published an extensive statistical analysis of the demographic propects of the province for the next 30 years, 2021 being the year of reference. Two of the main conclusions of this analysis are the following:

1- The population of Montreal (administrative region) is projected to grow by only 3,4%. The CMA will fare better with a 12,9% augmentation.

2- Quebec City (administrative region) will witness the strongest growth of any region with a 29,9% increase while the CMA will do even better with a 32,1% increase. In 2051, the CMA would then be home to 1 115 600 habitants (+ 270 800).

[MolsonExport]

those figures are quite pessimistic for greater Montreal, especially considering the rapid growth of that urban area over the past decade.

[saffronleaf]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

https://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/statistics/protection/Pages/RPDStat2023.aspx

Stats for 2023 from IRCC. Accepted cases for both countries are higher than rejected, so the acceptance rate is quite high. This is before accounting for the significant increase in claims from those two South Asian countries in 2024.

"high" is a relative term, though. Indian claimants tend to be rejected at a higher rate than the all countries average.

[P'tit Renard]

Originally Posted by saffronleaf

"high" is a relative term, though. Indian claimants tend to be rejected at a higher rate than the all countries average.

That's likely because because Indian claimants have the most cases in the system, despite it being a democracy currently not at war.

2024 Stats: https://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/statistics/protection/Pages/RPDStat2024.aspx

[saffronleaf]

Originally Posted by Acajack

People (or powers) that commit ethnic cleansing or even genocide always see some type of justification for it in their own eyes.

as someone who is neither anglo nor franco I think the treatment of the Acadians was solid and they need to get on with it.

[saffronleaf]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

That's likely because because Indian claimants have the most cases in the system, despite it being a democracy currently not at war.

2024 Stats: https://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/statistics/protection/Pages/RPDStat2024.aspx

yes, exactly, the rate of acceptance for Indian claimants is lower than the all country average.

[GDS]

Originally Posted by davidivivid

https://statistique.quebec.ca/fr/fichier...ec-et-regions-2021-2071-edition-2024.pdf

The Institut de la Statistique du Québec has published an extensive statistical analysis of the demographic propects of the province for the next 30 years, 2021 being the year of reference. Two of the main conclusions of this analysis are the following:

1- The population of Montreal (administrative region) is projected to grow by only 3,4%. The CMA will fare better with a 12,9% augmentation.

These type of projections have diminishing returns the further out they go, and clearly this one is already obsolete.

Montreal CMA has already achieved 65% of the growth in 4 years that is projected over 30, so....

[Spocket]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

those figures are quite pessimistic for greater Montreal, especially considering the rapid growth of that urban area over the past decade.

That's exactly what I was thinking, as well.

I would expect Greater Montreal to be well above 5 million by 2051. I would think at least 5 million.

[GreaterMontréal]

Montreal could be above 5 million by 2030.

[saffronleaf]

Hopefully Montreal CMA population goes down to 3 million by 2030. As a wise user here once said, adding population is just putting more sardines in a can, and therefore the addition of each sardine into the can adversely affects the quality of life for all the sardines. A Montreal with 5 million people will be 25% worse than a Montreal of 4 million people, just as a Canada with 40 million people has been 100% worse than Canada was with 20 million people.

[Justanothermember]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

Montreal could be above 5 million by 2030.

CMA, not city proper.

[Dalreg]

Why stop there? Montreal at 1 million would be even better. Heck drop down to 100k for Montreal and say a 1 million for Canada. Lots of room for everyone then......

[svlt]

Originally Posted by saffronleaf

Hopefully Montreal CMA population goes down to 3 million by 2030. As a wise user here once said, adding population is just putting more sardines in a can, and therefore the addition of each sardine into the can adversely affects the quality of life for all the sardines. A Montreal with 5 million people will be 25% worse than a Montreal of 4 million people, just as a Canada with 40 million people has been 100% worse than Canada was with 20 million people.

Canada is a really, really big can. We just haven't figured it out at all how to distribute the population and wealth. A Canada that suddenly went down to 20M today would face a societal collapse the likes not seen in any western democracy in multiples of decades.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by saffronleaf

as someone who is neither anglo nor franco I think the treatment of the Acadians was solid and they need to get on with it.

By the standards of the 1700s, sure.

[acottawa]

Originally Posted by Dalreg

Why stop there? Montreal at 1 million would be even better. Heck drop down to 100k for Montreal and say a 1 million for Canada. Lots of room for everyone then......

I think there are optimal sizes for cities. Below which you don't get amenities that people want, above which things just get more crowded and expensive without any improvement in useful amenities.

Just looking around the world, about 2 million seems to be the sweet spot. Anything bigger than that needs a really good transportation system and really high density to maintain a good quality of life, which is impossible in Canada.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by acottawa

I think there are optimal sizes for cities. Below which you don't get amenities that people want, above which things just get more crowded and expensive without any improvement in useful amenities.

Just looking around the world, about 2 million seems to be the sweet spot. Anything bigger than that needs a really good transportation system and really high density to maintain a good quality of life, which is impossible in Canada.

That’s why a place like Vienna almost seems like the perfect city in my eyes.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Acajack

By the standards of the 1700s, sure.

And this is the lens we should be viewing the actions of our ancestors with! It was a different time. Trying to apply modern standards to past actions just leads to toppled statues, bitterness and ongoing strife.

[le calmar]

Originally Posted by saffronleaf

"high" is a relative term, though. Indian claimants tend to be rejected at a higher rate than the all countries average.

Those acceptance rates are still shockingly high imo. It’s close or above the 50% mark for democratic countries that are not currently experiencing any conflict. I wonder if they end up approving most of those claiming to be “gay”.

[Zeej]

Originally Posted by davidivivid

The Institut de la Statistique du Québec has published an extensive statistical analysis of the demographic propects of the province for the next 30 years, 2021 being the year of reference.

That 2021 year of reference is very problematic as so much has changed demographically since the middle of the pandemic. These projections are essentially useless.

10M for Quebec in 2050? This could happen by 2030 - even earlier at current rates.