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Old Posted Oct 4, 2024, 9:25 PM
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LMIA fraud, immigration fraud, fake asylum claims, supressed wages, increase strain on infrastructure and health care....

If our economy needs to rely on growth over 1.5 mil people per year than we are seriously screwed.
Just wait. Gen X will start retiring en masse in about a decade while most of the boomers are still alive.

screwed. oh yes we will be.
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2024, 10:36 PM
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Just wait. Gen X will start retiring en masse in about a decade while most of the boomers are still alive.

screwed. oh yes we will be.
Then we should raise the age to start collecting CPP to 65 years.

Force druggies off welfare or get them to work for their cheque.

AI is going to replace a lot of jobs anyway. How many taxi drivers will be replaced by Musk's robotaxis (if he gets it to work) etc etc.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2024, 11:06 PM
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Here are my main issues:

1) Housing - this is the fundamental thing we need to fix, and the main reason I will likely vote NDP. Rustad and co. have said a few useful things, such as speeding up permitting, but ultimately he has a reactionary Nimby mindset for the most part, as far as I can see. We really can't afford to go backwards on this file.

2) Fiscal - they both seem bad here, I wish we could have Horgan back. Rustad will undoubtedly renege on many of his transportation promises so that might help, but promising a referendum on new taxes is populist nonsense like Christy Clark's stupid Translink referendum.

Whoever gets elected will benefit from falling interest rates, completion of LNG Canada, reduction in population growth and completion of the Site C Dam so the fiscal situation is probably better than it looks.

Also, although I don't like the big deficits, they are probably the reason BC has had the highest wage and GDP growth of any province over the past 5 years. In some sense, the provincial government has been running the counter-cyclical fiscal policy that the federal government should have been doing (like the US did) to counter the Bank of Canada misreading the situation and raising rates too high (thankfully coming down again now).

3)Transportation - Both parties are promising a skytrain extension, and the two being promised are probably the top 2 candidates (UBC and King George to Newton), so that is something. The NDP promises seem more realistic, likely reflecting they have been in government for a while. Rustad's number #1 promise on transit is to do an audit which tells me he prefers political games to funding transit and makes me very nervous. Maybe he would have the political courage to put in some proper operational funding for Translink, but I have more faith in the NDP on this front.

Both parties promising to reduces fares for seniors just makes me shake my head, we need more operational funding, not more demand and less funding, and seniors need more cash directed their way less than any other demographic group. Just brain-dead pandering.

4) Bureaucracy - 'Anglo Cost Disease' is killing us, there is way too much red tape and reviews and veto points and we need to start simplifying things and bringing costs down. This is probably the biggest area where I favour the Conservatives and don't expect NDP to improve at all

5) Competence - This is another big weak point of the Conservatives. Too many of their candidates, including their leader, seem to be gullible right wing types who believe in conspiracy theories, aren't too bright, don't have strong backgrounds in any walk of life and seem likely to make a lot of dumb decisions and lack competence in office. The NDP has been in for a while and has lots of experienced people who know their files. Even if the Conservatives wanted to take action on housing, do they have anyone who could match Ravi Kahlon - probably not.

6) Auto insurance - This didn't need to be on the list, but Rustad's brain dead promise for us to imitate Alberta's great auto insurance model is another dealbreaker for me. Even Scott Moe hasn't been ideological enough to get rid of public insurance, because everybody knows it works better.

7) Climate change / Electricity - Rustad doesn't believe in climate change, wants to slow down the transition to an electric society (which should be BC's strength, much like it is for Norway) and at the same time wants to waste time and resources looking into nuclear which might be sensible in some jurisdictions, but not in this one where our hydro power serves as a huge battery to support wind and solar, and the recent BC hydro call for power rustled up tons of responses, all of which would be cheaper and lower risk of a costly boondoggle than nuclear. Just ignorant, reactionary nonsense on all fronts from the Conservatives on this file.

8) Health Care - Like all Conservative governments, I'm sure the BC crew will starve health care of funding, and then point to the resulting problems as evidence they should privatize things. Every place in Canada is struggling with the combination of aging boomers and surging immigration, but I feel like the NDP has done reasonably well on this file. Covid was handled pretty well, the urgent care centres are good, they have funded new hospitals, and they have turned the corner on the number of family doctors in the province.

9) Crime / Public Order - Right wing folks know that whipping fear up on this issue is one of their surest paths to victory and they control most of the media environment so every election generally sees a crescendo of attention on this. Crime in BC has followed the same pattern as the rest of Canada and even the US (stopped falling in 2013 and began to rise, then spiked during the post pandemic phase (2021-2022), fell in 2023 and is falling further, back to the pre-Covid level, in 2024), suggesting provincial policies probably won't have much influence one way or the other on this front.

I do agree with the right wing view that we need to do more to clean up our cities and prevent visible homelessness and open drug use, but I'm not convinced the Conservatives will step up with the funding and organizational competence and willingness to stand up to the courts and activist groups to actually make a dent in the problem.

Also, repeat offenders need to be locked up for longer (maybe not a 3 strikes law, but how about a 7 strikes law), but that is Federal jurisdiction. Perhaps we will see if PP is willing to take on the activists and courts on this issue if he is elected next PM as seems likely.

Finally, the main driver of homelessness is just the stupidly high cost of housing, which comes back to why that was point #1, and this is at the bottom.

Overall, I get why young people are pissed, the last few years have been a clinic in how to govern for the old and screw over the young - at all levels of government - but I'm not sure if voting Conservative (at least at the provincial level) will really help. The main thing is really housing, and on that front, the Conservatives sound like boomer nimby's most of the time...
     
     
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The year is 2134. The incoming BC United Conservative Party of British Columbia is promising to return to the previous Conservative Party United British Columbia Party's Massey Tunnel replacement project, replacing the tunnel with a bridge, and undoing the New BC Democratic Party's Massey Tunnel replacement project replacing the tunnel with a tunnel.

The Massey Tunnel, originally built in 1959, was destroyed in the earthquake of 2093, and successive governments since then have pledged its replacement with either a tunnel or a bridge.

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BC Conservative Party Leader John Rustad addressed attendees at the ICBA Construction Innovation Summit in Vancouver on Oct. 3 and laid out the party’s agenda should it be elected on Oct. 19.

He also pledged to dial back on the Massey Tunnel project and return to a previous plan to replace the tunnel with a bridge.
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2024, 11:38 PM
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Rest of the transportation promises

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Commit to a new bridge across Okanagan Lake by working with the cities of Kelowna and West Kelowna to identify a preferred route, then adding the project into the provincial capital plan for completion no later than 2032.
Replace the aging Taylor Bridge across the Peace River.
Rebuild the Red Bridge in Kamloops after the tragedy of Lytton, ensuring that the Conservative Party delivers on critical infrastructure even in challenging times.
Upgrade Highway 19 in Nanaimo with grade separation at the most dangerous and congested intersections.
Expand Highway 1 to six lanes to Chilliwack, BC’s most critical transportation link. “It’s time to act like our entire economy depends on it—because it does.”
Identify and rebuild outdated Hwy 1 exits and interchanges, such as Brunette Ave. in Coquitlam, that are unsafe and cause major bottlenecks.
Expand the new Patullo Bridge to six lanes as soon as possible.
Commit to a new Ironworkers Memorial Bridge with expanded capacity for both cars and public transit services, reversing plans to remove the eastbound lane on Main St. dedicated to local traffic.
Replace the George Massey Tunnel without further delay, with a new high-capacity crossing at the earliest possible date.
Invest in additional local infrastructure upgrades throughout BC once the needs are fully assessed by a new government committed to building, not bottlenecking.
Never implement road pricing or tolls, as David Eby continues to mislead the public about his plans for road tolls and road taxes.
https://www.conservativebc.ca/get_bc_mov...ive_conservative_plan_for_infrastructure
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 5, 2024, 12:20 AM
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Pretty sneaky talking about Eby's "plans" for tolls...which is purposely vague because there are no plans, unless the plan he is referring to is scrapping them
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 5, 2024, 12:34 AM
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Replace the George Massey Tunnel without further delay, with a new high-capacity crossing at the earliest possible date.
So they're going ahead with the bigger tunnel? Because if they roll back to a bridge, that's another one-term delay and cost hike.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 5, 2024, 12:45 AM
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Rustad knows what the people want or something

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Rustad rolled out a promise Thursday to get rid of paper straws and bring back plastic bags to stores.

"By bringing back plastic straws, cutlery, and removing the bag fee, we will restore freedom of choice and focus on real solutions for our environment," he said in a statement. “The ban on plastic straws has been nothing but a nuisance for families and businesses across B.C."
https://www.biv.com/news/paper-straws-st...rs-jibe-over-taxes-and-communism-9612532

Meanwhile Chip Wilson



https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-ndp-called-com...-founder-chip-wilson-s-mansion-1.7061227
     
     
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A damning editorial in the G&M:


In an election that centres on affordability, B.C.’s big-picture economics matter
JUSTINE HUNTER
VICTORIA
PUBLISHED 5 HOURS AGO

…. The next government will inherit a record deficit – the current estimate is $10-billion – with growing debt-servicing costs and rising demand for public services and housing because of a growing population. The fragile economy is heavily dependent on volatile global commodity prices.

British Columbia has had record population growth over the past two years, but its economy is actually shrinking, when measured on a per capita basis – meaning that household incomes are declining….

…. Meanwhile, provincial debt is climbing rapidly and the labour market is increasingly dependent on public-sector jobs. B.C.’s budget this year prompted downgrades from major bond-rating agencies…..

….”Canada is essentially a basket case in terms of per capita GDP. We’re going to have the weakest growth in productivity amongst all OECD countries,” he said.

“But against that backdrop, [B.C.] is the weakest, or near the bottom of the provinces, against the very low, low bar, weak Canadian national performance.…..


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/b...lity-bcs-big-picture-economics/#comments
     
     
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A damning editorial in the G&M:


In an election that centres on affordability, B.C.’s big-picture economics matter
JUSTINE HUNTER
VICTORIA
PUBLISHED 5 HOURS AGO

…. The next government will inherit a record deficit – the current estimate is $10-billion – with growing debt-servicing costs and rising demand for public services and housing because of a growing population. The fragile economy is heavily dependent on volatile global commodity prices.

British Columbia has had record population growth over the past two years, but its economy is actually shrinking, when measured on a per capita basis – meaning that household incomes are declining….

…. Meanwhile, provincial debt is climbing rapidly and the labour market is increasingly dependent on public-sector jobs. B.C.’s budget this year prompted downgrades from major bond-rating agencies…..

….”Canada is essentially a basket case in terms of per capita GDP. We’re going to have the weakest growth in productivity amongst all OECD countries,” he said.

“But against that backdrop, [B.C.] is the weakest, or near the bottom of the provinces, against the very low, low bar, weak Canadian national performance.…..


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/b...lity-bcs-big-picture-economics/#comments
Well I don't subscribe to the Globe, so I can't read the rest of the article, but it isn't like them to post flat out lies in their paper, they usually leave that for PostMedia...

Anyway, as I posted up-thread, per capita GDP growth over the the past 5 years is higher in BC than in any other province.

I actually agree that the government needs to bring the budget closer to balance, but Rustad has blown any credibility he might have had on the issue with uncosted plans for huge infrastructure items, big proposed tax cuts and a plan for a referendum on any new taxes.

What do you think, Whatnext, do you think Rustad plans to bring the budget into balance - how, given the platform and promises made?
     
     
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Well I don't subscribe to the Globe, so I can't read the rest of the article, but it isn't like them to post flat out lies in their paper, they usually leave that for PostMedia...

Anyway, as I posted up-thread, per capita GDP growth over the the past 5 years is higher in BC than in any other province.

I actually agree that the government needs to bring the budget closer to balance, but Rustad has blown any credibility he might have had on the issue with uncosted plans for huge infrastructure items, big proposed tax cuts and a plan for a referendum on any new taxes.

What do you think, Whatnext, do you think Rustad plans to bring the budget into balance - how, given the platform and promises made?
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The problem with articles such as these is they don't provide any context for how BC is doing compared to the rest of the country. For example, if Province A has -1% GDP growth and 8% unemployment, it sounds bad, but if the rest of the country is at -2% gdp and 10% unemployment, Province A is actually doing much better. When you compare BC on most metrics, BC is fairing much better than other provinces.
     
     
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…. Meanwhile, provincial debt is climbing rapidly and the labour market is increasingly dependent on public-sector jobs. B.C.’s budget this year prompted downgrades from major bond-rating agencies…..
Funny, when even the Fraser Institute admits that we're leading the country debt-wise.

Side note: holy 🞵🞵🞵🞵, the Newfies are in trouble.
     
     
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Funny, when even the Fraser Institute admits that we're leading the country debt-wise.

Side note: holy 🞵🞵🞵🞵, the Newfies are in trouble.
Go talk to the Americans about out of control debt and interest payments
     
     
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And I've got a bone to pick with JT for that. Provincially though, you have a general idea of where the overspending is going and why, and it's not that much compared to the rest of Canada.
     
     
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A damning editorial in the G&M:


In an election that centres on affordability, B.C.’s big-picture economics matter
JUSTINE HUNTER
VICTORIA
PUBLISHED 5 HOURS AGO

…. The next government will inherit a record deficit – the current estimate is $10-billion – with growing debt-servicing costs and rising demand for public services and housing because of a growing population. The fragile economy is heavily dependent on volatile global commodity prices.

British Columbia has had record population growth over the past two years, but its economy is actually shrinking, when measured on a per capita basis – meaning that household incomes are declining….

…. Meanwhile, provincial debt is climbing rapidly and the labour market is increasingly dependent on public-sector jobs. B.C.’s budget this year prompted downgrades from major bond-rating agencies…..

….”Canada is essentially a basket case in terms of per capita GDP. We’re going to have the weakest growth in productivity amongst all OECD countries,” he said.

“But against that backdrop, [B.C.] is the weakest, or near the bottom of the provinces, against the very low, low bar, weak Canadian national performance.…..


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/b...lity-bcs-big-picture-economics/#comments
A sign of an economy in shambles is when you rely on an immigration ponzi-scheme to prop up the overall GDP while each individual that is not subscribed to the scheme becomes poorer.

We are becoming more unproductive and there is no relief on the horizon with AI negating any job growth.
     
     
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G&M opinion piece also said BC Con will set our housing policy back.
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The Conservative housing plans are misguided. The party says it wants more homes built but its main promise is a tax credit on mortgage interest or rent costs. This will build approximately zero new homes.

The Conservatives then want to demolish some of the housing density rules the NDP put in place. Instead, they would try to cajole cities, with new funding, to achieve the same goals. It is an unneeded delay and returns too much power to cities that have failed to ramp up housing starts. The proposals also veer into far-fetched territory, with talk of “building new towns.” Let’s work on the ones we have, where there is ample space for many more homes.

Under the NDP, housing starts in B.C. climbed to a record. Last year, per capita housing starts in the Vancouver region were two-thirds higher than in the Toronto area. B.C. housing starts this year have dipped about 10 per cent, amid high interest rates, but remain strong. The Conservatives falsely claimed housing starts “are collapsing.” New home construction is 40 per cent higher under the NDP than it was under the previous B.C. Liberal government, in which Conservative Leader John Rustad served from 2005 onward.

An expert analysis suggests the NDP’s housing density legislation could lead to at least 216,000 more new homes over a decade than would have otherwise been built. Let the market do its work and good things will happen.
We all love to complain about housing affordability crisis here in BC. If people, especially young people, are serious about tackling this issues, we need to be paying attention here. Otherwise, we as a society just want to complain for the sake of complaining. The solution, to me, is clear. One party has a housing policy and is acting on it.
     
     
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https://archive.ph/wip/i2XBB

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While I appreciate people wanting to see the whole article, please note posting it can violate copyright laws. See SSP thread here:
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256768

I’m always surprised how few posters subscribe to the G&M. It’s pretty much the most unbiased news source in the country and still has pretty high standards. Plus the cost of a subscription is a deductible on your CRA filing.
     
     
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Funny, when even the Fraser Institute admits that we're leading the country debt-wise....
Sorry, but did you mean BC's in the best or worst position nationally? Unless I'm misreading the graphs, only Alberta and Saskatchewan are lower on the "combined federal and provincial debt as a share of the provincial economy" graph and BC's interest on debt is the lowest of all the provinces.
     
     
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