Winnipeg | Osborne Village & Corydon area

[ColdRain&Snow]

Originally Posted by trueviking

^did we ever figure out how that new parking lot was allowed to happen on Roslyn?

I haven't heard anything back yet. I will follow up with the City when I get a chance.

[borkborkbork]

Originally Posted by drew

The standard operating procedure when dealing with the CofW (that only the unscrupulous developers seem to realize) is never ask for permission.

The City will ALWAYS bend to something that is already completed - but will put up never ending requests and requirements for those who want to follow the rules.

Are there jurisdictions that have figured out how to solve the "don't ask permission, just beg forgiveness" problem with developers?

[Mr Tall Forehead]

https://legacy.winnipeg.ca/PPD/Docum...-220327-VC.pdf

Planning report for the conversion of the Rubin Block. It will be great to see that beautiful building with life in it again.

[drew]

Originally Posted by borkborkbork

Are there jurisdictions that have figured out how to solve the "don't ask permission, just beg forgiveness" problem with developers?

Ultimately, the solution is to shut down work sites and force the developers to adjust construction to meet the requirements, and if necessary deny occupancy as long as it takes.

It's probably easier to "carry a stick" so to speak in cities that have developers lined up around the block to take on projects if someone else screws it up. Winnipeg isn't exactly in that situation, so they need to tread more carefully.

[ColdRain&Snow]

There's some excavation going on at the corner of Osborne and Stradbrook.

[pegster]

Is that just remediation work or is something actually going in there?

[Mr Tall Forehead]

I think it’s remediation going on right now. There are Miller Environmental signs on the fence. It would be nice knowing who brought (or intends to buy) the land and what they have planned for it.

[cllew]

Originally Posted by Mr Tall Forehead

I think it’s remediation going on right now. There are Miller Environmental signs on the fence. It would be nice knowing who brought (or intends to buy) the land and what they have planned for it.

There was an offer from a numbered company a few years ago when the city put the lot up for sale. With the city taking so long to get the remediation done I don't know if their offer still stands.

If I recall properly there was an article in the Free Press a few months ago saying the Provence dragged its feet in allowing the city to start the remediation

[Mr Tall Forehead]

Originally Posted by cllew

There was an offer from a numbered company a few years ago when the city put the lot up for sale. With the city taking so long to get the remediation done I don't know if their offer still stands.

If I recall properly there was an article in the Free Press a few months ago saying the Provence dragged its feet in allowing the city to start the remediation

I believe it. It seems like the Province's turnaround is getting worse on environmental files in the City. There's this site, plus about a half dozen burned out heaps of debris from fires that for some reason can't be cleaned up because there might be traces of asbestos in the piles of rubble. You have to wonder whether its a coordinated delay effort or whether there's just a single environment staffer causing the delays. Either way it needs to be fixed.

[bomberjet]

Someone will buy it. Prime location.

[cllew]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Someone will buy it. Prime location.

I don't have time to check on the city site but I think there were 3 or 4 offers on the site when it was offered.

[borkborkbork]

Originally Posted by cllew

I don't have time to check on the city site but I think there were 3 or 4 offers on the site when it was offered.

They got bids in 2021. The land was appraised at $700-800k, and the winning bid was $1.6M.

The Department received five (5) bids as follows:

1 $1,625,000.00 Compliant
2 $1,200,000.00 Compliant
3 $850,000.00 Compliant
4 $785,000.00 Compliant
5 $499,999.00 Compliant

After evaluating the submissions, the Department recommends approval of the offer received from 10090710 Manitoba Limited, for the purchase price of $1,625,000.

I'm guessing that $1.6M ship has long since sailed.

[cllew]

Originally Posted by borkborkbork

They got bids in 2021. The land was appraised at $700-800k, and the winning bid was $1.6M.



I'm guessing that $1.6M ship has long since sailed.

that is exactly what I was thinking of.

Because of the delay in remediation I wonder if the winning bidder still has first right of refusal to buy the land?

[ColdRain&Snow]

Originally Posted by borkborkbork

They got bids in 2021. The land was appraised at $700-800k, and the winning bid was $1.6M.



I'm guessing that $1.6M ship has long since sailed.

Damn, that's frustrating. We could have had a nice new building by now if it wasn't for this environmental remediation delay. How does it take 3 years to start the remediation.

[EndIt]

Originally Posted by ColdRain&Snow

Damn, that's frustrating. We could have had a nice new building by now if it wasn't for this environmental remediation delay. How does it take 3 years to start the remediation.

The delay sucks, but its the nature of the remediation beast unfortunately. Urban soils can have some pretty crazy contaminants and you have to take time to test, write the reports, plan for remediation and disposal, figure out liability etc etc, before any work can get done.

Slow construction is better than the risk of accidentally poisoning Winnipeggers with lead or PCBs.

[Jeff]

i walked by the day they started digging and it smelled so badly of the old fuel residue it was almost overwhelming. it had to happen in some capacity with imminent development or not.

[lbnevs]

So tiny OV thing I noticed in my area...

The house at 404 Gertrude (between the paint factory and New Leaf RMT) has been torn down. It was boarded up this summer and has had people squatting in it all summer/fall.

24-200578 HO - 404 Gertrude Ave - SFD - Demolish - Demolition of a 1,520 sq. ft. two-storey single family dwelling - Issued 2024-09-20

Not sure what's going in -- haven't seen it on the agenda for the community council meetings so I'm guessing it's a 4 or 6plex that can now be built by right without variances/approvals...?

[Biff]

There is 4 storey, 24 unit building coming to Bole St. Im not sure if it is the parking lot or if some houses will be coming down.

[borkborkbork]

Sounds like KISS 102.3 is moving out of Osborne.

"just did my final show in the Osborne Village studios...next week moving to a new building and a new studio, same station, same show.
So many fun times had in this crowded room. So many interesting conversations with so many fascinating people. Between shows did in Winnipeg and shows did for cities across Canada think covered every single day part a person can work on the radio.
So long Osborne!"

https://www.threads.net/@drewkozub/post/DBSPfwzN23B

This fits with Crumb Queen being on a short lease. With the building's main tenant leaving a large and hard to repurpose space, I'm guessing we'll see a big change to this block at some point.

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by ColdRain&Snow

Damn, that's frustrating. We could have had a nice new building by now if it wasn't for this environmental remediation delay. How does it take 3 years to start the remediation.

What was on this corner that requires remediation? A gas station?