Atlantic Canadian Politics Thread

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by sailor734

I know, right? JT and Freeland are on the national stage and way out of Faytene's league. They've done more damage to the entire country than Faytene could do to little old NB even if she was in government for the next 20 years. It really is apples and oranges.

Hardly

And Higgs has done far more damage to the province of NB in six years than JT has. I’m not a big fan of JT though, as he’s all style no substance, but holy crap do people love to blame him for all kinds of things that Higgs is actually to blame for.

We have Higgs to blame for putting the cost of the carbon tax almost entirely upon consumers at the pump, when he should have put the carbon tax obligation squarely upon NB’s largest industrial polluters. It’s abundantly clear why Higgs did not do that, and basically he’s basically gaslighting the people of NB when he places the blame for how NB implemented the carbon tax entirely on Trudeau.

A premier can typically do far more damage to the future of a province than a Canadian PM can. Let’s not forget either— Harper did his fair bit of damage too!

[drewber]

At this point I have to assume sailor734 is trolling the forums thinking people have faytene for being Christian and not because she's a lunatic who believes she can bring the dead back and speak in tongues. Let's stick to politics or just shut the discussion thread down until after October 21st.

[MonctonianSentinel01]

Originally Posted by lirette

No where in anyone's post is anyone being criticized for being Christian or religious in general. I'm sure many of the liberal mlas have Christian views or beliefs. Trudeau himself is a Christian.

How many people do you think in Canada believed that they have resurrected another human being? How many people do you think they were hexed by a coven of witches in a cafe ? If you think these are mainstream normal views for the average Canadian I would recommend making these same claims in any public setting and see what type of reaction you get. If your restaurant server told you they cured a hex that was placed on them by witches would your reaction be "yeah, makes sense I hear that all the time"?

Perhaps you just haven't made yourself aware of all of the claims Faytene has made and in that case I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. She wrote a book and has many public ally available videos from her broadcast.

Trudeau is not a Christian. Wow!

It's complete disdain for the right in general.
Higgs gave to a Christian rehab clinic.
Higgs hangs out with a pastor.
Higgs has a far right Christian on board.
That's way too far right for us has been the general concensus for at least the past few days and weeks. I've been watching and reading the whole time. Meanwhile we are the ones who are not tolerant.

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by drewber

At this point I have to assume sailor734 is trolling the forums thinking people have faytene for being Christian and not because she's a lunatic who believes she can bring the dead back and speak in tongues. Let's stick to politics or just shut the discussion thread down until after October 21st.

To be fair, that wasn’t the Sailor making that claim

[drewber]

Originally Posted by MonctonianSentinel01

Trudeau is not a Christian. Wow!

Trudeau is not only a Christian he's Catholic. Has been most of his life minus some questioning from 1989 to 1998. He lost his father and regained his faith. I'm an atheist but don't lie about those who have strong beliefs. Faytene is more than just Christian she's an extremist.

[MonctonianSentinel01]

Originally Posted by drewber

Trudeau is not only a Christian he's Catholic. Has been most of his life minus some questioning from 1989 to 1998. He lost his father and regained his faith. I'm an atheist but don't lie about those who have strong beliefs. Faytene is more than just Christian she's an extremist.

Then you don't know what a Christian is then. The lifestyle that he lives and the things that he does and supports says otherwise.

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by MonctonianSentinel01

Then you don't know what a Christian is then. The lifestyle that he lives and the things that he does and supports says otherwise.

Oh please. Higgs is so far from leading a Christian lifestyle with his utter disregard and contempt for the poor, the sick, the homeless, etc.

Perhaps you need a refresher too, but this is not the thread for that.

No one hates Faytene for being a Christian… many, however, are bewildered by her extreme views and actions.

[lirette]

Originally Posted by MonctonianSentinel01

Trudeau is not a Christian. Wow!

It's complete disdain for the right in general.
Higgs gave to a Christian rehab clinic.
Higgs hangs out with a pastor.
Higgs has a far right Christian on board.
That's way too far right for us has been the general concensus for at least the past few days and weeks. I've been watching and reading the whole time. Meanwhile we are the ones who are not tolerant.

Sorry I must have missed the part where you explained to me that thinking you are capable of resurrecting someone or getting a hex put on you by witches were considered "normal "views. I'm engaging directly with the claim you made.

This matters of course, given she will likely be given a prominent role in a future government if elected.

You are insuiating I have disdain for the right by suggesting someone who claimed to have given someone a supernatural blood transfusion to heal a kidney should be no where near decision making on things like healthcare or education. Is it a normal view to think you can execute a supernatural blood transfusion?

Faytene is either a grifter, or genuinely believes the stuff she says and I'm not sure what one is worse.

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by lirette

Sorry I must have missed the part where you explained to me that thinking you are capable of resurrecting someone or getting a hex put on you by witches were considered "normal "views. I'm engaging directly with the claim you made.

This matters of course, given she will likely be given a prominent role in a future government if elected.

You are insuiating I have disdain for the right by suggesting someone who claimed to have given someone a supernatural blood transfusion to heal a kidney should be no where near decision making on things like healthcare or education. Is it a normal view to think you can execute a supernatural blood transfusion?

Faytene is either a grifter, or genuinely believes the stuff she says and I'm not sure what one is worse.

You didn’t miss that part, MonctonSentinel just purposely ignored the evidence of Faytene being a whack job and doubled down on the ridiculous notion that this is really about Christians being persecuted for their beliefs.

[TitleRequired]

A candidate for Halifax mayor says the municipality's approach to homeless encampments has encouraged unhoused people from across the country to move to the city to live in tents — a claim housing advocates and city councillors say is untrue.

Andy Fillmore, who was a Liberal member of Parliament for Halifax for nine years, said police have told him the city is attracting homeless people from outside the province, which he attributes to the municipality providing support like portable toilets and water at city-designated encampment sites. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scot...cts-unhoused-people-challenged-1.7334929

Surprising how the songbook changes when no longer under the Liberal banner. At least Halifax has opposing viewpoints as expressed by Fillmore and his opponents; providing the electorate a clear view on this issue.

And this dovetails into the recent push my housing/harm reduction advocates that all these homeless people are in fact local.

Are they?

[MonctonianSentinel01]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

Oh please. Higgs is so far from leading a Christian lifestyle with his utter disregard and contempt for the poor, the sick, the homeless, etc.

Perhaps you need a refresher too, but this is not the thread for that.

No one hates Faytene for being a Christian… many, however, are bewildered by her extreme views and actions.

I never said that Higgs was a Christian. Please tell me where I said that. Someone said that JT was a Christian and I was rebuking that. Save your simpleton words for your own mouth and not mine.

[MonctonianSentinel01]

Originally Posted by lirette

Sorry I must have missed the part where you explained to me that thinking you are capable of resurrecting someone or getting a hex put on you by witches were considered "normal "views. I'm engaging directly with the claim you made.

This matters of course, given she will likely be given a prominent role in a future government if elected.

You are insuiating I have disdain for the right by suggesting someone who claimed to have given someone a supernatural blood transfusion to heal a kidney should be no where near decision making on things like healthcare or education. Is it a normal view to think you can execute a supernatural blood transfusion?

Faytene is either a grifter, or genuinely believes the stuff she says and I'm not sure what one is worse.

The only thing that I said was that JT isn't a Christian, everything else was just a general summary of others finding reasons to stay away from the conservatives, not the only reasons, but those things have been mentioned. It wasn't targeted at you specifically.

Not impressed with others being worried about Christians being in government when other faiths are in there and not much was said about them.

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by TitleRequired

A candidate for Halifax mayor says the municipality's approach to homeless encampments has encouraged unhoused people from across the country to move to the city to live in tents — a claim housing advocates and city councillors say is untrue.

Andy Fillmore, who was a Liberal member of Parliament for Halifax for nine years, said police have told him the city is attracting homeless people from outside the province, which he attributes to the municipality providing support like portable toilets and water at city-designated encampment sites. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scot...cts-unhoused-people-challenged-1.7334929

Surprising how the songbook changes when no longer under the Liberal banner. At least Halifax has opposing viewpoints as expressed by Fillmore and his opponents; providing the electorate a clear view on this issue.

And this dovetails into the recent push my housing/harm reduction advocates that all these homeless people are in fact local.

Are they?

I can't answer your question but I would have to think it's preferable to be homeless in a larger urban centre where more supports/services are available.

That certainly was said to be the case in Vancouver over the years (although that probably has to do with climate as well.)

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by MonctonianSentinel01

I never said that Higgs was a Christian. Please tell me where I said that. Someone said that JT was a Christian and I was rebuking that. Save your simpleton words for your own mouth and not mine.

JT is a Catholic, he’s a Christian, mate. Please tell me how a Catholic is not a Christian?

You don’t think Higgs is a Christian? I assumed you think he is…

[TitleRequired]

Originally Posted by MonctonianSentinel01

Not impressed with others being worried about Christians being in government when other faiths are in there and not much was said about them.

There used to be an awesome website called religioustolerance.org. It is unfortunate that it dropped off the web; it would be helpful to help educate many expressing distain on certain religious practices.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220122014526/https://www.religioustolerance.org/

I'm very concerned that expressing the intention of not voting due to a persons religious affiliation is caustic to society. Would it extend to observant jews? Observant Muslims? Mormons? JW?

I've been castigated by others by asking if we need an ideological purity test to be an mla, in sarcastic retort.

A relevant quote:

"Religious tolerance is not religious indifference. It consists of valuing the right of another person to hold beliefs that you know absolutely, and without a doubt, to be wrong."

[lirette]

Originally Posted by MonctonianSentinel01

The only thing that I said was that JT isn't a Christian, everything else was just a general summary of others finding reasons to stay away from the conservatives, not the only reasons, but those things have been mentioned. It wasn't targeted at you specifically.

Not impressed with others being worried about Christians being in government when other faiths are in there and not much was said about them.

Not a single person on this forum has said anything resembling being worried about Christians in government. The reason I am even still continuing to post is because I am not going to let someone make false statements about me. We are worried about a specific person who has said specific concerning things.

I don't judge people based on their belief system of choice, but I can certainly judge them by their actions, and one of the actions the star PC candidate has taken is to benefit financially from claiming they can make supernatural blood transfusions, either because she believes she can do it, or she knows its scientifically impossible and is essentially scamming people. This really has nothing to do with Christianity. I don't want this person anywhere near a position of power where they can make decisions about New Brunswick's medical or education system.

I don't think its a controversial take to be gravely concerned that someone who believes that they can resurrect people or perform supernatural blood transfusions might not have New Brunswickers best interest in mind when it comes to our lack of health care workers.

[MonctonianSentinel01]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

JT is a Catholic, he’s a Christian, mate. Please tell me how a Catholic is not a Christian?

You don’t think Higgs is a Christian? You assumed you think he is…

I understand that he is a Catholic and that is indeed Christian. What I'm saying is that if he was a legit Christian his views and policies would be far different, his actions and stances on several things say otherwise. To just say that you are Christian or simply be a church goer is not enough, you must live the life as well.

[MonctonianSentinel01]

Originally Posted by TitleRequired

There used to be an awesome website called religioustolerance.org. It is unfortunate that it dropped off the web; it would be helpful to help educate many expressing distain on certain religious practices.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220122014526/https://www.religioustolerance.org/

I'm very concerned that expressing the intention of not voting due to a persons religious affiliation is caustic to society. Would it extend to observant jews? Observant Muslims? Mormons? JW?

I've been castigated by others by asking if we need an ideological purity test to be an mla, in sarcastic retort.

A relevant quote:

"Religious tolerance is not religious indifference. It consists of valuing the right of another person to hold beliefs that you know absolutely, and without a doubt, to be wrong."

Probably not.

[MonctonianSentinel01]

I can't believe that Holt is suggesting to have a rent cap, when we know that the problem is the demand is too high. We see in New York that hasn't played out very well. To me this is an empty promise, how is she going to lower rents? What about those buildings that have been bought or constructed for a large amount of money. She can't lower rents so that they are losing money. This will more than likely allow places to deteriorate or even have developers to look at NB in an unfavorable light so that they won't want to build here. Increasing the strain on housing supply even more.

[TitleRequired]

Originally Posted by MonctonianSentinel01

I can't believe that Holt is suggesting to have a rent cap, when we know that the problem is the demand is too high. We see in New York that hasn't played out very well. To me this is an empty promise, how is she going to lower rents? What about those buildings that have been bought or constructed for a large amount of money. She can't lower rents so that they are losing money. This will more than likely allow places to deteriorate or even have developers to look at NB in an unfavorable light so that they won't want to build here. Increasing the strain on housing supply even more.

Apartment rents are down and supply is up 170% in Buenos Aires since Argentina scrapped all rental regulations. https://www.businessinsider.com/rents-ap...-price-controls-buenos-aires-2024-9?op=1

Removing the rent cap moved the marketplace in Argentina, by epic amounts.

All a rent cap does is front load the price increases to the front end. So landlords simply raise rents to ensure they are buffered on any costs increases regardless of the amount they can increase rents by.