New Brunswick Election - Page 3

gtsoc · #41 Posted **Sep 21, 2024, 8:47 PM**

The conservative candidate for SJ Lancaster is a big Tik tok star

https://www.reddit.com/r/newbrunswickcanada/s/rcQkRtire3

sailor734 · #42 Posted **Sep 21, 2024, 9:07 PM**

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The conservative candidate for SJ Lancaster is a big Tik tok star

https://www.reddit.com/r/newbrunswickcanada/s/rcQkRtire3

Maybe she and Faytine could do a duet?

edit....her TikTok account has been set to "private" in the past few minutes.

EnvisionSaintJohn · #43 Posted **Sep 23, 2024, 11:21 PM**

Susan Holt mentioned in her AMA tonight that an announcement on her property tax reform plan would be announced later this week.

She specifically mentioned municipalities being empowered to raise rates on industry separate from residential property taxes.

Sounds like her tax reform plan could be quite promising!

ChampduLarge · #44 Posted **Sep 24, 2024, 5:03 PM**

I will be proud to support Holt. There is much I dislike about Higgs but his divisiveness around trans issues, in my opinion, renders him untrustworthy and has been a complete waste of time for the province.

Policy 713 was created by the Higgs government in 2020. It's not something that was imposed on them. When questioned about "why now", Higgs lied outright and pointed to complaints, Freedom of Information requests showed that there had been none. The implementation of the policy has been a disaster that has preoccupied the government for over a year.

It would be hard for me to find a minority in New Brunswick that is more vulnerable than trans people. I strongly believe that Higgs as a person and his government do not care about trans issues at all, but believe that this is an issue on which they can divide and conquer. Trans people in this province are being treated like garbage for political gain.

Don't get me wrong, I believe that trans right are a minor issue for the province, my feelings are not based on the importance of the issue, but on the grotesque cynicism of their approach. My government spending money to intervene on a Saskatchewan court case? Not where I want the energies of the government to go.

With the transition of the Conservatives into some kind of Christian fundamentalist party, you can expect more of the same if they are re-elected.

TitleRequired · #45 Posted **Sep 24, 2024, 5:30 PM**

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I will be proud to support Holt. There is much I dislike about Higgs but his divisiveness around trans issues, in my opinion, renders him untrustworthy and has been a complete waste of time for the province.

Policy 713 was created by the Higgs government in 2020. It's not something that was imposed on them. When questioned about "why now", Higgs lied outright and pointed to complaints, Freedom of Information requests showed that there had been none. The implementation of the policy has been a disaster that has preoccupied the government for over a year.

It would be hard for me to find a minority in New Brunswick that is more vulnerable than trans people. I strongly believe that Higgs as a person and his government do not care about trans issues at all, but believe that this is an issue on which they can divide and conquer. Trans people in this province are being treated like garbage for political gain.

Don't get me wrong, I believe that trans right are a minor issue for the province, my feelings are not based on the importance of the issue, but on the grotesque cynicism of their approach. My government spending money to intervene on a Saskatchewan court case? Not where I want the energies of the government to go.

With the transition of the Conservatives into some kind of Christian fundamentalist party, you can expect more of the same if they are re-elected.

Would you express the same disapproval of voting for an Orthodox Jew? How about an observant Muslim?

How surprising that religious intolerance is alive and well in the far left.

sailor734 · #46 Posted **Sep 24, 2024, 5:52 PM**

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Would you express the same disapproval of voting for an Orthodox Jew? How about an observant Muslim?

How surprising that religious intolerance is alive and well in the far left.

I don't see it as being about religion but rather about cynical policy aimed at pandering to a particularly fervent wing of a religion or other any special interest group.

FWIW I'm equally put off when it's done by a left wing party and aimed at a particularly ultra left voting block.

TitleRequired · #47 Posted **Sep 24, 2024, 6:05 PM**

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I don't see it as being about religion but rather about cynical policy aimed at pandering to a particularly fervent wing of a religion or other any special interest group.

FWIW I'm equally put off when it's done by a left wing party and aimed at a particularly ultra left voting block.

Fair enough. I just take it in context of it being othering. Observant religious people exist in numbers in NB, and the wholesale I’m not voting for you because you’re one of them does raise one’s eyebrows.

I would accept disagreement on policy points. Let’s pretend Faytene wanted charter schools, and campaigned accordingly. It might be motivated by a prosecution complex due to religion, but I’d accept a hard no on the policy, motivated by costs, etc…. But not the religion.

drewber · #48 Posted **Sep 24, 2024, 8:16 PM**

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Fair enough. I just take it in context of it being othering. Observant religious people exist in numbers in NB, and the wholesale I’m not voting for you because you’re one of them does raise one’s eyebrows.

I would accept disagreement on policy points. Let’s pretend Faytene wanted charter schools, and campaigned accordingly. It might be motivated by a prosecution complex due to religion, but I’d accept a hard no on the policy, motivated by costs, etc…. But not the religion.

Seperation of church and state. Make policies based on political reasonings not religious ones. Faytenne is a loose nut and if you haven't seen that by now you're probably as radical as she is

TitleRequired · #49 Posted **Sep 24, 2024, 8:27 PM**

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Seperation of church and state. Make policies based on political reasonings not religious ones. Faytenne is a loose nut and if you haven't seen that by now you're probably as radical as she is

Please advise which adherents to religious beliefs you consider unacceptable in your show of tolerance.

Please consider the meme source if your beliefs. A us idiom. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States

TitleRequired · #50 Posted **Sep 24, 2024, 8:55 PM**

Just an fyi. Canada’s head of state is the actual leader of a religious organization.

EnvisionSaintJohn · #51 Posted **Sep 24, 2024, 9:33 PM**

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Just an fyi. Canada’s head of state is the actual leader of a religious organization.

FYI Canada’s head of state still hasn’t even been to Canada as head of state… so it’s a bit of a moot point.

Though, I’d say there’s quite a difference between Charles and Faytene when it comes to how their respective religious beliefs inform their politics and world view… let alone their view of modern medicine.

Faytene wants to pray away cancer, while Charles took modern treatments to deal with his cancer.

I think most Canadians like to keep religion and politics separate. Higgs clearly thinks differently, and it may very well be his undoing.

EnvisionSaintJohn · #52 Posted **Sep 24, 2024, 9:50 PM**

sailor734 · #53 Posted **Sep 24, 2024, 9:52 PM**

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Just an fyi. Canada’s head of state is the actual leader of a religious organization.

Yes, but it is a respectable Christmas and Easter (along with the occasional funeral and wedding) sort of religion. No speaking in tongues, snake handling or rolling in the aisles for HM .

EnvisionSaintJohn · #54 Posted **Sep 24, 2024, 10:08 PM**

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No speaking in tongues, snake handling or rolling in the aisles for HM .

Who knows what that lot of nutters actually gets up to behind closed doors.

Regardless, what the British monarchy does or what they stand for has virtually nothing to do with New Brunswick, even if we’re called New Brunswick because of the royals “hometown” of Braunschweig, Hanover, Germany

This Faytene lady is just a straight up nut job.

“In 2018, PC candidate Faytene Grasseschi told students they should speak in tongues ("pray in the spirit") one hour per day. She "prophesied" that within a month, they would be living in a
"completely different reality"”

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sailor734 · #55 Posted **Sep 24, 2024, 11:03 PM**

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Who knows what that lot of nutters actually gets up to behind closed doors.

Regardless, what the British monarchy does or what they stand for has virtually nothing to do with New Brunswick, even if we’re called New Brunswick because of the royals “hometown” of Braunschweig, Hanover, Germany

This Faytene lady is just a straight up nut job.

“In 2018, PC candidate Faytene Grasseschi told students they should speak in tongues ("pray in the spirit") one hour per day. She "prophesied" that within a month, they would be living in a
"completely different reality"”

• Video Link

(and it's actually the Canadian Monarchy).........and it saves us from having some washed up political hack in the position of ceremonial head of state. It also keeps us grounded in some pretty important fundamental truths.....things like the principals of the Magna Carta, the supremacy of Parliament and the idea of Common Law)

sailor734 · #56 Posted **Sep 24, 2024, 11:10 PM**

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MonctonRad · #57 Posted **Sep 24, 2024, 11:17 PM**

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(and it's actually the Canadian Monarchy).........and it saves us from having some washed up political hack in the position of ceremonial head of state. It also keeps us grounded in some pretty important fundamental truths.....things like the principals of the Magna Carta, the supremacy of Parliament and the idea of Common Law)

Some people don't get the importance of a constitutional monarchy. We don't have the shit show like in the States where Trump was both head of government and head of state.

These are two separate positions. In the business world they would be considered President and Chairman of the Board.

The Chairman exists as a figurehead, but, has the ultimate pwer to fire the President.

Same thing for the King. And, the armed forces swears allegiance to the King (and not the PM).

It is a failsafe mechanism.

And, the head of state (King) exists above politics, therefore the pomp and ceremony of the head of state is not sullied by gutter politics. It is a wonderful system.

sailor734 · #58 Posted **Sep 24, 2024, 11:21 PM**

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Some people don't get the importance of a constitutional monarchy. We don't have the shit show like in the States where Trump was both head of government and head of state.

These are two separate positions. In the business world they would be considered President and Chairman of the Board.

The Chairman exists as a figurehead, but, has the ultimate pwer to fire the President.

Same thing for the King. And, the armed forces swears allegiance to the King (and not the PM).

It is a failsafe mechanism.

And, the head of state (King) exists above politics, therefore the pomp and ceremony of the head of state is not sullied by gutter politics. It is a wonderful system.

^This

It's a shame Social Studies/Civics appear to be no longer taught in grade 7 or 8. Many people today have a very shaky idea of our political system, it's origins and how it functions.

EnvisionSaintJohn · #59 Posted **Sep 24, 2024, 11:58 PM**

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(and it's actually the Canadian Monarchy).........and it saves us from having some washed up political hack in the position of ceremonial head of state. It also keeps us grounded in some pretty important fundamental truths.....things like the principals of the Magna Carta, the supremacy of Parliament and the idea of Common Law)

How Canadian is it when they basically are never here? I understand the distinction that Charles is the "Canadian Monarch", fully separate from the British Monarchy in the context of Canada, but come on... it's all the same person, whom very rarely acts as the Canadian Monarchy.

Keeping the monarchy doesn't save us from having a washed up political hack in the position of a ceremonial head of state at all, really, when for all intents and purposes, the GG fills in as the Canadian head of state far more often than the King or Queen ever actually does acts as Canada's head of state! When the POTUS makes a state visit to Canada, it's not the King or Queen meeting them at the airport, it's the GG.

The senate is a much bigger problem in terms of unelected, washed up political hacks hacks getting cushy tax payer funded positions, for life.

Canada would do fine electing a President to serve a largely ceremonial position as Head of State, and commander in chief of the armed forces modelling it after Ireland's Presidential model would probably work quite well for Canada. Lieutenant governors are also almost completely superfluous, and their roles could quite easily be fulfilled by the Premiers or Deputy Premiers.

The Magna Carta, the Supremacy of Parliament and the idea of Common Law are all things we should be proud of, but their importance doesn't rely upon the existence of a "Canadian Monarchy" in any fundamental way. The British political system also gave us a lot of crap too, like an unelected upper house, the monarchy, and the first past the post electoral system.

In 2018 Blaine Higgs won the NB election with 31.9% of the vote. The Conservatives and PA's won 25 seats and formed government with 44.4% of the popular vote. The Liberals, Greens, and NDP won 24 seats with 53.7% of the popular vote. (0 seats for the NDP)

While there's that pesky amending formula and constitution to blame for the lack of electoral reform federally, there's really no good excuse for why NB and other provinces refuse to enact meaningful electoral reforms to move on from the first past the post system. New Brunswick would be far better off with a ranked ballot and/or a proportionately representative electoral system.

EnvisionSaintJohn · #60 Posted **Sep 25, 2024, 12:30 AM**

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Some people don't get the importance of a constitutional monarchy. We don't have the shit show like in the States where Trump was both head of government and head of state.

These are two separate positions. In the business world they would be considered President and Chairman of the Board.

The Chairman exists as a figurehead, but, has the ultimate pwer to fire the President.

Same thing for the King. And, the armed forces swears allegiance to the King (and not the PM).

It is a failsafe mechanism.

And, the head of state (King) exists above politics, therefore the pomp and ceremony of the head of state is not sullied by gutter politics. It is a wonderful system.

And some people clearly don't get that not all Presidential systems are like the one in the United States.

Simon Harris is the Prime Minister of Ireland (Taoiseach), the head of government, while Michael D. Higgins is the President of Ireland, commander-in-chief, and the head of state.

These are two separate positions. In the business world they would be considered CEO and Chairman of the Board.

The Chairman exists as a figurehead, while the CEO is primarily concerned with the day to day operations of the company.

The Irish armed forces swears allegiance to the President (and not the PM).

It is a failsafe mechanism.

And, the head of state (President of Ireland) exists above politics, therefore the pomp and ceremony of the head of state is not sullied by gutter politics, or hereditary privilege. It is a wonderful system in Ireland, completely removed from the ridiculous British Monarchy, where their citizens vote for someone to represent their country proudly as their head of state, a non political position.

Unfortunately here in Canada, we're forced to accept whoever is the British Monarch as our "Canadian Monarch", and we have virtually no input as to who is appointed Governor General, or Lieutenant Governor at the provincial level.

It would be much preferable to vote for a great Canadian to become the President of Canada to serve as head of state and commander-in-chief in a non political role, rather than keeping the British Monarch as our "Canadian Monarch" and the GG as their representative.