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Old Posted Sep 10, 2024, 11:52 PM
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Maybe there will be another redesign for Amex?
If there is, it won't be anything too dramatic. Even now, Foster's design is overall consistent with his original plan for the site. Swap the diamond with multiple terraces.


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https://commercialobserver.com/2024/09/larry-silverstein-new-book-9-11/
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Another previous design for comparison, the ~2020 Deutsche Bank proposal:
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I didn't mind that one either.
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I actually like that one better. Now imagine it with a spire, similar to the original FT spire. There would be "twins" of a sort back at the WTC.
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^I like that one too, but the most recent version remains my favorite. The spire idea sounds awesome though.

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It’s views like these that I believe will have the biggest impact on the feeling around this important part of New York—and the country as a whole. It has a presence that sets it apart from the rest, offering a subtle reminder of the city before it changed 23 years ago, while still having its own unique identity.

As we've talked about before, this is such a significant site for both the city and the nation, and I’m confident that whatever rises here will reflect that.

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The models are official.

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I like it. It appears those fins we saw in the renderings are real.







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It really retains that bulk from the South flank. Will really stand out once complete, adding a lot to the WTC Mass bulk. This is a big one!
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It would be good for Silverstein (and us) to see this tower back in action and on the way to being completed. After the initial excitement of watching the WTC be rebuilt, attention and excitement shifter north, to the Hudson Yards and Midtown East with all of the developments there. But it would be nice to see some action back Downtown and this complex finally completed.
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If this comes to fruition, I’d also like to see FiDi greatly pedestrianized and see A LOT of residential construction. FiDi has the potential to be gorgeous due to the waterfront and the European-style streetscape.
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I like it. It appears those fins we saw in the renderings are real.







Does it have to be so boxy?? One of the greatest features of the original 2 WTC design was the diamonds tied into the isosceles triangles of 1WTC. The massing is quote nice and the setbacks and balconies give yet another glass tower some decent texture. That top box begs for a something A LOT more creative that will tie into the rest of the WTC complex as a whole.
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have to keep coming to this thread to remind myself what this weeks design looks like because it's so forgettable.
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have to keep coming to this thread to remind myself what this weeks design looks like because it's so forgettable.
Well, it’ll be here. As always, and as with any tower, it’s subject to revisions in one form or another. A signed tenant can hold a lot of sway, and in this case potentially one that could take a HUGE amount of the space.
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It really retains that bulk from the South flank. Will really stand out once complete, adding a lot to the WTC Mass bulk. This is a big one!
It is absolutely massive at 1,348 feet tall and 3 million square feet.

It will be the 4th tallest office building in the United States behind OWTC, Sears Tower, and 270 Park.
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It is absolutely massive at 1,348 feet tall and 3 million square feet.

It will be the 4th tallest office building in the United States behind OWTC, Sears Tower, and 270 Park.

It would also fall behind One Vanderbilt, among current standing buildings.
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It would also fall behind One Vanderbilt, among current standing buildings.
Officially you are correct, but I don't count spires.
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Officially you are correct, but I don't count spires.
Unfortunately, what you count (or don’t) doesn’t matter.
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Unfortunately, what you count (or don’t) doesn’t matter.
Sure it does. It matters to me.

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