Canadian Skyline Thread III

[J.OT13]

How old is your city's skyline? (US and Canada)
https://www.reddit.com/r/skyscrapers...ada/?rdt=45586

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Loving the bulk and especially the layers. Go Montreal!

Yeah Montreal's skyline is becoming one of my favs in North America. I wasn't up to speed with all of the new skyscrapers under construction until very recently.

Nice to see all of the 30,40,60+ storey buildings under construction



https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=106542691

Le 900 Saint-Jacques looks massive in softee's YouTube Megabus trip to downtown Montreal.


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[MolsonExport]

at 61 floors, it is 10+ levels higher than anything Montreal had until recently

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

How old is your city's skyline? (US and Canada)
https://www.reddit.com/r/skyscrapers...ada/?rdt=45586

That's cool. New York and even Toronto doesn't make any sense to me. Toronto from 1965 to 1975 and New York pre 1929 crash are overshadowed by the booms today? Is this based on height over number of buildings?

Ontario cities have poor date of completion sources.

[GeneralLeeTPHLS]

It's all based on the age of the 50 tallest buildings in each city. I saw this same graphic on Twitter, it was interesting.

[WhipperSnapper]

d'oh! moment.


50 tallest is alot less interesting

[AuxTown]

50 tallest makes sense and is an interesting metric in the smaller cities like Kansas City, Phoenix, Charlotte, etc. But for the big dawgs (NYC, Toronto, Miami, Chicago, LA) this graphic doesn't really tell you anything about the city.

[Nouvellecosse]

Originally Posted by AuxTown

50 tallest makes sense and is an interesting metric in the smaller cities like Kansas City, Phoenix, Charlotte, etc. But for the big dawgs (NYC, Toronto, Miami, Chicago, LA) this graphic doesn't really tell you anything about the city.

I wouldn't say it doesn't tell you anything. The only thing it doesn't tell you is how many buildings a city added that are outside the top 50 and what any of the new buildings look like including how much taller they are compared to the older ones. It's true that non-top 50 buildings can be fairly large for a larger city, but non-top 50 tallests don't tend to have much skyline impact so from a skyline perspective regardless.

[WhipperSnapper]

A non 50 tallest in Toronto is 184 metres tall. IIRC, that's higher than the second highest Miesian black box in the business core. There's also a matter of under construction towers

[craner]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

How old is your city's skyline? (US and Canada)
https://www.reddit.com/r/skyscrapers...ada/?rdt=45586

Two things:
1. The 1990s were a dead decade for skyscraper building.
2. Calgary’s graph is almost identical to Seattle’s.

[J.OT13]

This graph isn't an exact science. It doesn't make sense that Ottawa had more buildings that are within the 50 tallest in the 1950s and before, when we had a strict 150 meter height limit (with only the Peace Tower within the top 50 today), but nothing in the 1960s when our first few high-rises were built, a few of them firmly in our top 50 today.

[WhipperSnapper]

There aren't any completed (the known) in the 1960s in the SSP database. There were a number of them under construction in the late 1960s.

We've had an artificially propped up real estate cycle that has lasted decades. Values from properties to construction materials to homes are at sky high values. Increasing average heights that would blow the minds of modernist era developers are not a surprise. So the 50 tallest is a reflection of nothing related to skyline growth and implies that the infill/density around the 50 tallest stands for nothing. Is Metrotown/Brentwood greater than Vancouver?

[Rico Rommheim]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

at 61 floors, it is 10+ levels higher than anything Montreal had until recently

and yet, still 15m shorter than Le 1000, which is our forever tallest. At least for the foreseeable future.

[Wigs]

Edmonton had more skyscrapers built in the 1970s, Calgary had more skyscrapers built in the 1980s.

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim

and yet, still 15m shorter than Le 1000, which is our forever tallest. At least for the foreseeable future.

For PoMo architecture, I've always liked it. Also didn't realize there's a skating rink inside
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[Zeej]

Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim

and yet, still 15m shorter than Le 1000, which is our forever tallest. At least for the foreseeable future.

Would be great if someone got around to updating Le 1000's height, per CTBUH standards (lowest entrance) of 214m. Pretty sizeable difference for skyscraper nerds.

A bunch of other skyscrapers in Montreal benefit from this due to the sloping terrain downtown - notably our unofficial 2nd tallest building Victoria sur le Parc, measuring in at an as-built height of (gasp) 203m.

[WhipperSnapper]

IIRC, 205 metres is the height from the ground floor which would be the correct height. As such, CTBUH probably means the lowest main entrance on the ground floor as measuring from the lowest entrance on any level would screw up all other specs like number of storeys tall for both above and below ground.