[Saint John] 91 King Street | ?m | ?s | Site Prep

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by OliverD

There's a lot of boomers who may have never lived in an apartment, or last lived in one in university or college, who are apprehensive about making the leap and for those people garden homes are appealing for various reasons. So I don't think that one is necessarily way more desirable than the other.

Yep, we are thinking of downsizing but my wife still wants a back yard and a flower garden.......and I don't think I want to share a wall with neighbours unless the soundproofing is exceptional.

[OliverD]

Originally Posted by sailor734

Yep, we are thinking of downsizing but my wife still wants a back yard and a flower garden.......and I don't think I want to share a wall with neighbours unless the soundproofing is exceptional.

It's a valid concern – concrete construction certainly helps a lot.

A friend of mine bought a brand new condo in a stick framed building in Fredericton nearly 20 years ago and the soundproofing was abysmal. I wonder if those builds have improved over the years.

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by OliverD

It's a valid concern – concrete construction certainly helps a lot.

A friend of mine bought a brand new condo in a stick framed building in Fredericton nearly 20 years ago and the soundproofing was abysmal. I wonder if those builds have improved over the years.

From what I've read you can achieve decent soundproofing in stick built multiunits but it involves additional time, materials and thus cost. The cynic in me isn't completely convinced local developers are necessarily doing everything they can in this regard.

[darkharbour]

That's part of what makes a "high end" development as compared to a lower-end one. You can achieve phenomenal soundproofing in a timber-framed building but it involves separated walls/floors and different materials, so costs are higher and you can fit fewer units per floor because of the space it takes up, hence the higher prices for the buyer or renter.

There is room in the market for both, some people want the cheapest, biggest unit possible, others are willing or able to pay for more shared amenities and additional isolation.

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by darkharbour

That's part of what makes a "high end" development as compared to a lower-end one. You can achieve phenomenal soundproofing in a timber-framed building but it involves separated walls/floors and different materials, so costs are higher and you can fit fewer units per floor because of the space it takes up, hence the higher prices for the buyer or renter.

There is room in the market for both, some people want the cheapest, biggest unit possible, others are willing or able to pay for more shared amenities and additional isolation.

That would be one of my concerns if I was buying a condo…….that it would have a thin high end veneer but be lower end construction where you can’t see.

[cdnguys]

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[sailor734]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

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Any updates on timing? Do you think we will see concrete poured before winter?

[DyAm00394]

Originally Posted by sailor734

Any updates on timing? Do you think we will see concrete poured before winter?

I would imagine since the signs on the fencing say "Coming Spring 2026".

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by DyAm00394

I would imagine since the signs on the fencing say "Coming Spring 2026".

Although, given the history of this project (and that of The Wentworth), I'll take "Spring 2026" as more of an aspiration.

[darkharbour]

[nwalbert]

Originally Posted by darkharbour

It will be really really nice to see that foundation finally go in.

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Newest renderings. Looks pretty good, but the ostentatious logo on the four corners of the roof needs to go lol

[Sabien]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

Newest renderings. Looks pretty good, but the ostentatious logo on the four corners of the roof needs to go lol

Nice render, I like the design, but it’s odd that the artist got the streetscape & layout all wrong.

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by Sabien

Nice render, I like the design, but it’s odd that the artist got the streetscape & layout all wrong.

Yeah, that white van is just about to hit the cenotaph as it speeds into Kings Square.

[KnoxfordGuy]

From the mayor's Facebook page:

[Helladog]

Here's the look sans corner ornaments...

[sailor734]

Originally Posted by Helladog

Here's the look sans corner ornaments...

Lot less of a cartoonish "Gotham City" look

[Pugsley]

I still can't get over this design. Especially when I see a new one being proposed in Toronto which could have very well been placed on this same site. I like this one, as it looks a bit more modern but has some of the traditional elements that make the King's Square area so uniform. But oh well. Posting for fun I guess - obviously would need a design-reverse for the garage entry placement. I just liked the height and the simplicity:

[OliverD]

Yup, that is very attractive and generally much better than what is going to be built here.

[jonny golden]

What are the odds that he changes the design? We've seen it with other projects in the past. As for the height, would the reduction in interest rates be a factor? They have come down 75 basis points since June, and more cuts are expected. There are 2 more rate announcements this year.