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[Saul Goode]

Originally Posted by Dartguard

There are too many union jobs at the NSLC to risk competition.The provincial government also counts on the profits from the NSLC to run the rest of the operations.

You're probably right.

But I maintain that there's no defensible reason for government to be in the business of retailing consumer goods. None.

It's entirely possible to regulate for health and safety purposes and to tax goods without being the retailer. We do it quite successfully with tobacco and prescription drugs.

[teddifax]

Originally Posted by Saul Goode

You're probably right.

But I maintain that there's no defensible reason for government to be in the business of retailing consumer goods. None.

It's entirely possible to regulate for health and safety purposes and to tax goods without being the retailer. We do it quite successfully with tobacco and prescription drugs.

So very true!

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by eastcoastal

Yeah, it can be frustrating. I think, though, that government regulation is not about best value for consumers. I also think that with the recent classification of alcohol as a carcinogen, we're not likely to see less regulation for booze. I sure would like to be able to pick up wine or beer with the rest of my groceries, but I really don't think it'll happen.

That classification is the latest attempt by the public health nannys to repeat their success in the war on smoking by finding another dragon to slay. Have to have a reason to keep funding those cushy jobs, after all. The much-ballyhooed report from last year calling for no more than 2 drinks a week to save your health has already been debunked as a pretty poor attempt at social engineering that was produced by a group with some pretty obvious biases and no clue about statistical methods. But I digress…

Recently I heard that NSLC has gone back to the bad old days that I thought had long been eliminated by quietly advising the big commercial brewers to increase the prices they charged the NSLC. From their perspective it is win-win, since the breweries make more money and so won’t be coming to them singing the blues about tough times in the marketplace (which are true enough, as legal weed has taken a big chunk out of that young consumer beer market) and they make a bigger margin for themselves with zero effort. Of course, it’s bad for the consumer, but that is seldom something today’s NSLC worries much about.

I know in other provinces, liquor boards got lots of bad publicity in past years when similar practices were revealed, but when you’re the only game in town that is easy to shrug off. Here, I know that the owners of the Labatt brewery on Agricola St periodically threaten to close the place down in order to get their way. I would guess the big A-B mega breweries in the USA produce identical beer at a fraction of the cost. I am still amazed that the beady-eyed types that run InBev haven’t shut down the local operation here, as they have slashed and burned much of the former A-B legacy.

[eastcoastal]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

... The much-ballyhooed report from last year calling for no more than 2 drinks a week to save your health has already been debunked as a pretty poor attempt at social engineering that was produced by a group with some pretty obvious biases and no clue about statistical methods...

Off to google "Alcohol as carcinogen debunked" now... in the meantime, I have a sleep tracker I've been wearing for a year or so now. I can see that even one drink seems to result in some measurable physiological responses in me: higher resting heart rate overnight, lower heart rate variability overnight, less restful sleep with more interruptions (I wake up more, even if I don't remember doing it), and lower "readiness" the next day. It's moved alcohol out of the "this-will-help-me-relax-after-a-long-day" category for me, but I still enjoy a drink or two with dinner or just because.

[ArchAficionado]

Originally Posted by eastcoastal

Off to google "Alcohol as carcinogen debunked" now... in the meantime, I have a sleep tracker I've been wearing for a year or so now. I can see that even one drink seems to result in some measurable physiological responses in me: higher resting heart rate overnight, lower heart rate variability overnight, less restful sleep with more interruptions (I wake up more, even if I don't remember doing it), and lower "readiness" the next day. It's moved alcohol out of the "this-will-help-me-relax-after-a-long-day" category for me, but I still enjoy a drink or two with dinner or just because.

It's hardly news that alcohol is terrible for your health, and measurably moreso than cannabis. That's not to say there is any major issue with either when enjoyed responsibly and in moderation though.

[ns_kid]

Originally Posted by AnotherNorthender

In other news, it looked like a second crane was being assembled on the site near Costco when I drove by at lunch.

There's been lot of progress on the first two towers in the expansive (if unimaginatively named) Dartmouth Crossing Residential district. Work is underway on what appears to be the tenth level of the first 15-storey tower, while the first level of the podium for the second tower is underway.



This project seems to be flying a bit under the radar, which belies its massive scale. North American Development Group is promising over 4100 units spread over nearly 57 hectares along Findlay Drive between Wright Avenue and Eileen Stubbs Avenue. This initial phase is off the extension of Shubie Drive, between the Keg and Costco. Unlike some other projects in HRM, this one appears to be quietly proceeding according to plan.


The first phase of the Dartmouth Crossing residential development is bounded by Shubie Drive on the north and Commodore Drive on the south. The initial towers are circled in red. Source: zzap architecture + planning

[terrynorthend]

Odd that the Costco intersection doesn't feed a road into this development. 4100 units could use better access

[Dartguard]

Originally Posted by terrynorthend

Odd that the Costco intersection doesn't feed a road into this development. 4100 units could use better access

There is a very steep hill at that intersection. Probably better ROI putting a building on that hill.

[HarbingerDe]

Originally Posted by Dartguard

There is a very steep hill at that intersection. Probably better ROI putting a building on that hill.

Yeah, lots of blasting and earth-moving would be required, and the road would still probably need to curve quite a bit to keep the grade reasonable, further eating into developable land.

[Arrdeeharharharbour]

There is a 'road-stub' at the intersection of Finlay Drive and McClure Close complete with sidewalk stubs that terminate at the hillside. It appears that the intent is that a road will be constructed.

[HarbingerDe]

Originally Posted by Arrdeeharharharbour

There is a 'road-stub' at the intersection of Finlay Drive and McClure Close complete with sidewalk stubs that terminate at the hillside. It appears that the intent is that a road will be constructed.

The most recent development plans show the McClure Close stump remaining a stump, completely cut off by a large residential building sitting directly in front of it.

https://www.shapeyourcityhalifax.ca/dartmouth-crossing

[Arrdeeharharharbour]

Originally Posted by HarbingerDe

The most recent development plans show the McClure Close stump remaining a stump, completely cut off by a large residential building sitting directly in front of it.

See page 2:

https://ehq-production-canada.s3.ca-cent...58ebb96b00f4e5696078e8e6f66000ac771425dc

Ooops...the link doesn't want to work for me. It certainly makes sense that they wouldn't try and blast through that rock for a roadway. However, I do think that it would be good to put a multi use pathway, or maybe a couple/few of them, connecting the residential area to the shopping area and Shubie Park beyond.

[HarbingerDe]

Originally Posted by Arrdeeharharharbour

Ooops...the link doesn't want to work for me. It certainly makes sense that they wouldn't try and blast through that rock for a roadway. However, I do think that it would be good to put a multi use pathway, or maybe a couple/few of them, connecting the residential area to the shopping area and Shubie Park beyond.

First link I sent was messed up - fixed now!

Yeah, I hope they do something more appealing with the dead end.

[IanWatson]

Interesting that the concept site plan shows a grocery, especially with Walmart and Costco right there.

[Keith P.]

Not really Dartmouth Crossing, though you can see it from this place. I visited someone today in Lancaster Villas, the still being constructed twin apartment buildings on the corner of Lancaster Dr and the beginning of the 118 in Dartmouth:

https://www.rentbakerdrive.com/properties

Building #2 is still under construction but #1 is all done except for some minor details and seems nice enough, if a bit sterile, though the main lobby has promise. The apartments seem nice enough and decently sized.

[Dmajackson]

The crane for Building 'A' (51 Drum Road) came down this week.


HalifaxDevelopments.ca (Photo by David Jackson)

[Dmajackson]

HalifaxDevelopments.ca (Photo by David Jackson)

[Dmajackson]

Website

[markbeaver]

From the website - …” When Dartmouth Crossing is your neighbour, “running errands” becomes “taking a stroll.” Shops, dining, entertainment—it’s all right outside your door”…. Ugh…

[OldDartmouthMark]

Hey, you could literally take home your Ikea purchases with a rolling cart.

I'm one of the few on here who actually like DC, but I can't say I'd really want to live there. Perhaps if one worked in Burnside and wanted to drive minimally, you could get by this way, but the surroundings (other than the nearby lake) aren't super picturesque or really vibrant, other than constant car traffic.