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Originally Posted by Hawrylyshyn
You're right, they may not be able to return to "normal" again. But at the end of the day they are still HUMAN and making claims that they are not, that they are something less than that is despicable - it's nothing to do with a different mindset, it's that you're viewing them and speaking about them exactly how Hitler viewed the Jews. Not a Liberal mindset at all, I'm quite conservative and have almost always voted that way (go Pierre!).
Regarding your ORMUS scam - I will always bring this scam up, even if I appear petty, because it clearly shows the (scummy) person you are. You're trying to make profit by selling people false hope of a product that will CURE CANCER - a disease that kills thousands of people in this country every year.
"It's a cellular regeneration product and cancer happens within the cells - I am not going to argue the semantics of what things can and cannot do" You literally have zero educational background in this field and it shows. Hint: cancer is the unregulated growth of cells, extra regeneration is literally the last thing that is needed to treat it. Or prove me wrong, and share these "semantics" and the exact mechanism of how this magic water cures cancer while the billions of dollars spent in oncological research have not made a cure.
Freedom of opinion does not equal freedom of consequences + I'm not trying to cancel you (I don't stop you from posting these things!). I have every right to also call out your shitty views (and scam!).
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Ah yes, because according to YOUR infallible logic, NOTHING can cure cancer that is naturally made in the world - even though there is documented evidence of things such as siberian mushrooms doing just that. Entire populations of people who have grown up eating it who have never had any family history of cancer - ever. Or the fact that big pharm actually profits massively off "treatments" for cancer and other diseases and thus there will never ever be a cure for ANYTHING, just treatments and vaccines, things they can eternally profit off of.
it doesnt cause cancerous cells to grow or proliferate - I am well aware that cancer is damaged dna in cells that causes the body to fail to terminate and thus they grow wildly out of control. What ormus does is repair dna by providing elements to the cells, causing healthy ones to grow quicker, providing support to the cells that kill cancer cells and allowing damaged cells the ability to either terminate or repair. Ormus is still being researched, and is not a "scam" - I take it myself, and have observed wonderful benefits. It is farmed from a volcanic fissure in BC and then dried out and then bottled. It is 100% natural, and thus contains a lot of trace elements from the earth, some of which you cannot get anywhere else. Perhaps you should test it in a lab before you get on your holy pedestal. For a field that seems to know so much about cancer you'd think you'd understand cancer is not a "disease" - it is a reaction, or "weathering" of the body to many things
it can be a reaction to emotional stress and anxiety that can weaken the bodies immune system causing more cancer cells to grow - for every healthy human produces cancer cells daily that are destroyed by the bodys immune system - it is laughable that you think you have to have a degree in a field to know anything about it - like that somehow makes you better. I know quite a lot about cancer and how it affects the body - uv rays, radiation, anything that can damage the dna of cells can cause them to turn cancerous if their ability to self terminate is damaged, or if the cells that destroy them cannot destroy them in time. The human body is like a factory - there are 2 ways to keep it healthy - 1) you free up the agents that gunk up the machinery, and 2 you provide it with the raw materials it needs to build itself.
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Ormus has documented effects - for instance if used to water crops those crops grow 200% bigger - this has been documented. It's not just random water - it has a lot of trace elements in it because it's DEEP from within the ground - its one reason plants grow like crazy in volcanic soil because those very same elements provide essential materials to the plants to grow - it's the same to the body - ormus provides essential materials that help the body grow and repair itself, and thus can also help to bolster cellular health. Get off your goddamn high horse and realize there are things about reality you simply do not know - you said it yourself - they've been researching cancer for years and they STILL don't know everything about it or the human body - we are constantly learning new things about us, and just because we cannot understand how something works doesn't mean it doesn't - sometimes it just means we lack the proper instruments to measure things.
As a result I have every right to counter call out YOUR bullshit. You're an arrogant person who thinks they are educated and thus claims to know everything. You don't. If this was hundreds of years ago and i claimed the world was round, or that antibiotics could help the body you'd be arrogantly claiming I was wrong about that too, simply because of what was said or known at the time. We've conducted our own
science on it and have posted the results. There are also many philosophers of the past, as well as scientists and ancient sources that have all echoed the same benefits of the
substance. )<-- read the "Modern Science Meets Ancient Alchemy" section of this to understand their "scientific" claim that it can cure cancer - coming from actual scientific sources) It's been documented and heralded for thousands of years and many prestigious institutions have done research on it. It's not the water itself responsible - that's just the carrier - its the white powder that's suspended IN the water - the orbitally rearranged monoatomic elements (ormes aka ormus) that is responsible for all of the effects. We evaporate it into the powder from the underground lake in the fissure we farm it from and then apply and condense that powder into distilled water for use. You can literally see the white flecks floating in the water in each bottle.
If it's a "scam" then it appears there are a lot of important people - people of the past, people in science and quantum mechanics, people who have done experiments on it - very notable people who appear to be in on this "scam" - there is only so much science one can ignore, and in this case, it appears that not only does science report and support it after extensive documentation, but investigating it may have actually led to breakthroughs in stealth technology as well as science into space travel.
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And no, hitler viewed the jews as less than human because of how they looked and how they took over financial institutions like the plague and because there was a fear they would dilute what they considered the pure aryan race. That and they wanted more living space for aryans. I am not comparing them to that - I am stating that a person has to possess certain qualities and self-governing functions - we call people who are laying in a bed without the ability to move a vegetable - that implies they are not human. Humanity applies certain attributes to being human. I get where you're going with this, that all beings have inalienable rights, but that's like saying that if a person was infected to eat actual brains and became an actual zombie, that they are still a human, even if they are incurable and will always be a zombie. Most people would no longer call those people human. Or vampires the same thing. Humanity all across history has separated civil society from those "others" - it is not a eugenics thing - it is an acknowledgement that they require a different kind of care, and in some cases quarantine. But no, of course you have a high pedestal of morality you wish to stand on, and nothing I do or say will stop you from being on it - so go ahead and keep acting that way, it's not like what you think about me matters anyways. All I am saying is quarantine those who cannot be cured, and help those who can. The comparison to nursing homes I admit may have been a bit.. unevenly comparable but it still got my point across.
This will be the last time I bring any of this up - and I will only refer to this post in future if I must, because it's annoying to have to post this on a forum that isn't even meant for this, just so one person on it will back off on calling me a scammer.
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