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[BDiH]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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The person he is talking about at the beginning is Evelyn Nesbit.

That conversation about Evelyn Nesbit was fascinating. It was so interesting to hear someone that knew her speak of her life in her last years. Samson De Brier was not born when Evelyn's husband, Harry Thaw, shot and killed Sanford White at the rooftop theater of Madison Square Garden.

What an era, filled with glamour and scandal, and as Lillian Roth's headstone reminds us, "As bad as it was it was good."

[Scott Charles]

Does anybody know if these two images both show the same building? (on the left)

1918


2024



I was watching the 1918 Harold Lloyd film Why Pick on Me? on YouTube when I spotted what I was sure is Windward Circle in Venice beach.

Assuming I'm correct, is there any chance that's the same building (or at least the shell of it)?

Here is Windward Circle on Google Street View:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9880211,...9728!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu


I composited my photo above from several different frames in the movie, but the scene in question appears at 3:40 in the clip below:

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[Noir_Noir]

Two different buildings on the same spot Scott Charles.

Top picture, the old Hotel Antler, demolished in 1964.

The present day building, an architectural homage to the old hotel, was built in 1988.


ethereal_reality illustrates in these posts from two years ago.


https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9684577&postcount=58926


https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9684606&postcount=58930

[riichkay]

A new remastered clip, dated approx 1949, has been posted to YouTube......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZB9UlsyC-o&t=8s

Most of the footage is at Union Station.....











At the end of the clip there is a night shot, the YouTube comments identify this as Wilshire Blvd. just past Robertson on the south side of the street....

[Scott Charles]

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir

Two different buildings on the same spot Scott Charles.

Top picture, the old Hotel Antler, demolished in 1964.

The present day building, an architectural homage to the old hotel, was built in 1988.


ethereal_reality illustrates in these posts from two years ago.

Thanks for the info, Noir_Noir.

My French language skills are sorely lacking, but if the word homage means “extremely ugly new building”, then I'm in full agreement.

It's a shame that so many of the original Venice canals were paved over, it looks like that area would have been quite beautiful.

It seems everything in LA worth looking at gets torn down... the Venice canals, the beautiful original location of Angels Flight, the old Richfield building, indeed the hills themselves Downtown... sadly, the list seems to go on... and on... and on...

[unihikid]

I'm working on a project at work where I'm transferring slides to digital files ( i was the first to jump at it). Most of the slides are of properties we once owned or promo pictures, but this one didn't look like it belonged.


Photo by GLAAC

I'm thinking this is around 1961/62. But exactly where?

[Lorendoc]

Originally Posted by unihikid

I'm working on a project at work where I'm transferring slides to digital files ( i was the first to jump at it). Most of the slides are of properties we once owned or promo pictures, but this one didn't look like it belonged.


Photo by GLAAC

I'm thinking this is around 1961/62. But exactly where?

Umm...Santa Anita? EDIT: i like Mackerm's Dodger stadium better - the light standards.

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by Scott Charles

It seems everything in LA worth looking at gets torn down... the Venice canals, the beautiful original location of Angels Flight, the old Richfield building, indeed the hills themselves Downtown... sadly, the list seems to go on... and on... and on...

The other day I was thinking that people in most other cities don't even know what their cities or locations looked like years and years ago, but we do because Hollywood has filmed it for 100+ years and so we have that perspective.

[Mackerm]

Originally Posted by unihikid

I'm working on a project at work where I'm transferring slides to digital files ( i was the first to jump at it). Most of the slides are of properties we once owned or promo pictures, but this one didn't look like it belonged.

I'm thinking this is around 1961/62. But exactly where?

It looks like Dodger Stadium, but I haven't nailed down the exact viewpoint (our assignment.) Somewhere around White Knoll Drive, perhaps. Was Parking Lot 1 a hill when it first opened?

[unihikid]

Originally Posted by Mackerm

It looks like Dodger Stadium, but I haven't nailed down the exact viewpoint (our assignment.) Somewhere around White Knoll Drive, perhaps. Was Parking Lot 1 a hill when it first opened?

Bingo with the subject matter, crossing my fingers if we figure out if Parking Lot 1 is the spot. I also didn't know if the slide needed to be switched or not...

[JScott]

Originally Posted by riichkay

At the end of the clip there is a night shot, the YouTube comments identify this as Wilshire Blvd. just past Robertson on the south side of the street....

More accurate to say the vantage point is on the south side of Wilshire just past Robertson. (We're looking NE toward the NW corner of Wilshire and Robertson here.) :-)

-JScott

[sadykadie2]

Originally Posted by Scott Charles

Thanks for the info, Noir_Noir.

My French language skills are sorely lacking, but if the word homage means “extremely ugly new building”, then I'm in full agreement.

It's a shame that so many of the original Venice canals were paved over, it looks like that area would have been quite beautiful.

It seems everything in LA worth looking at gets torn down... the Venice canals, the beautiful original location of Angels Flight, the old Richfield building, indeed the hills themselves Downtown... sadly, the list seems to go on... and on... and on...

What happened to the canals is that for some reason, they filled with silt and they couldn't keep them clear. Such a shame

[ethereal_reality]

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I could use some help deciphering a word or two written on the back of this photograph.

It shows a market (and pharmacy?) that was located on Sunset Blvd.


eBay




And here is what's written on the back.



What is the cross street?


And this was written at the bottom.



What is the name of the laboratory? (first line)


Go forth loyal noirishers.

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[Earl Boebert]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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I could use some help deciphering a word or two written on the back of this photograph.
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And this was written at the bottom.



What is the name of the laboratory? (first line)


Go forth loyal noirishers.

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I get "Bagne"

Cheers,

Earl

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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I could use some help deciphering a word or two written on the back of this photograph.

It shows a market (and pharmacy?) that was located on Sunset Blvd.







And here is what's written on the back.



What is the cross street?


[...]Go forth loyal noirishers.

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Curson Avenue, spelled Curzon.

[Engineeral]

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert

I get "Bagne"

Cheers,

Earl

I vote "Bayne", from "Billy Bayne or . .. " in the lower line

[Earl Boebert]

Originally Posted by Engineeral

I vote "Bayne", from "Billy Bayne or . .. " in the lower line

I agree.

Cheers,

Earl

[Noir_Noir]

odinthor and Engineeral are on the mark with Curson Ave. and Billy Bayne.


C. William Bayne, grocer at the SE corner of Sunset and N. Curson.


rescarta.lapl.org


I wonder if this is the original store from the picture at 7580 Sunset, still standing in 2019. Gone by 2021.



GSV


To tie in with the "Bayne Laboratories" mention on the back of the picture, a snippet from a 1925 cosmetic trade journal.

The same C. W. Bayne?


archive.org - The American Perfumer and Essential Oil Review 1925-01


A 1931 ad for CHIN-CHAN Cream from Bayne Laboratories.


archive.org - The Western Journal of Education, November 1931

Great stuff! I swear by it.


C. W. Bayne sold the company in 1932.

[Martin Pal]

The address in the phone directory clip says Sunset and Stanley, a block west.

[HossC]

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir

C. William Bayne, grocer at the SE corner of Sunset and N. Curson.


rescarta.lapl.org

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

The address in the phone directory clip says Sunset and Stanley, a block west.

The "r1446½ Stanley refers to C William Bayne's residence, not his business address. In the CDs, "r" is residence, "h" is householder.

From the abbreviations page of the 1922 CD:

EXPLANATORY.—in addresses the word "street" is always understood. The letter h is used to indicate the head of the house and r for all others.