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Quebec is not becoming "more French".
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Yes and they also enthusiastically cheer for Canada's national teams that have Quebecers on them. Even if they often have some issues with the composition of the teams and the way they are run. (For example, banning the use of French in the locker room in the name of team "cohesion", as we've sometimes seen.)
reminds me of banning religious symbols (except of course Christian ones because...cultural heritage) in...well that province's name escapes me.
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reminds me of banning religious symbols (except of course Christian ones because...cultural heritage) in...well that province's name escapes me.
Exactly the same! You've got us figured all out!
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And even with that we only barely manage to keep our heads above water, and somewhat slow down the decline. As opposed to reversing it. But thanks for your moral support!
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Exactly the same! You've got us figured all out!
Keep updating your (extremely long) list of grievances against the noble Quebecois, while conveniently overlooking slights against any and all other ethnic and minority groups.

Your posts about anything Quebec-related are dripping with contempt for Canada.

It is great to have a convenient scapegoat upon which to blame all of your problems.
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And even with that we only barely manage to keep our heads above water, and somewhat slow down the decline. As opposed to reversing it. But thanks for your moral support!
We?

Who is "we"?

Now back to our normally scheduled programming of Acajack and New Brisavoine. Offer dissenting opinions at your own peril.
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We?

Who is "we"?

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Uhh... francophones living in Canada?
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Since restrictions on religious garb have been brought up again on here, I've decided to post this article from today.

Apparently in France, where even students are forbidden from wearing religious garb, a decent uptick in academic success among Muslim girls has been observed since the ban was put in place. Other demographic groups have remained basically the same over the same period.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/0...ance-ascenseur-pour-la-reussite-scolaire
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How many Québécois in Canada's basketball team?
There's something sure, France's team is 100% French.

Désolé, les gars... If our team beats the US, that would be a historic miracle, would be worth it.
     
     
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How many Québécois in Canada's basketball team?
There's something sure, France's team is 100% French.

Désolé, les gars... If our team beats the US, that would be a historic miracle, would be worth it.
There are two players from Québec on Team Canada. One is of Haitian origin and is from Montréal-Nord and still has lots of ties to the city.

The other is probably of Anglo-Caribbean origin and was born in Montreal and lived there for a time, but seems to have spent much of his younger life in Ontario and the US.

There are actually more and more good basketball players coming out of Quebec. Until fairly recently there were almost none.

A couple of years ago Montreal's Bénnédict Mathurin was one of the top picks in the NBA entry draft.
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I was also thinking over the weekend that Quebec is also very egalitarian, so perhaps this plays into it.
I think a bigger motivation is likely US sports scholarships, in that there's definitely much more interest in English Canada (especially Southern Ontario) to score a full NCAA or athletic scholarship to study in the best US colleges. In Québec, there is interest but it's definitely not as coveted especially amongst francophones, especially if their preference is a French-language university. The reality is that most of Canada's summer Olympians train in the US to achieve their pinnacle of success, no different than Léon Marchand training at UT Austin.

Whereas, the majority of the training for Winter Sports takes place in Canada.

Having family and friends who has been through the Swim Canada apparatus, I commonly hear that the GTA and Southern Ontario is a swimming powerhouse because the city doesn't have a winter mentality, and there's a lack of winter sport alternatives for kids to go into. It makes recruiting for local swim teams that much easier, especially since the price of admission is very low. The irony is that Toronto swimmers used to have to shuttle down to Parc Olympique to train before they built the 2015 Pan-Am Swimming Centre, as the University of Toronto Varsity pool was not sufficient.
     
     
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reminds me of banning religious symbols (except of course Christian ones because...cultural heritage) in...well that province's name escapes me.
Christian symbols are banned as well.
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It is great to have a convenient scapegoat upon which to blame all of your problems.
Like Québec is for the rest of Canada...
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Christian symbols are banned as well.
Yep, same over here in public schools.
Catholic or Jewish (maybe also Muslim) schools are most often committed to follow the schedule specified by the ministry of education as "écoles privées sous contrat avec l'État" (literally private schools under contract to the French state).
Of course, the latter are free to provide an additional religious education to their students, which is almost always optional in Catholic schools.
I don't know about the Jewish or Muslim schools. Their religious attitude might be much stricter than that of the Catholics in many cases.
     
     
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Assemblée Nationale (c/o Le Devoir)


Is that a cross I see?
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Is that a cross I see?
That cross was actually removed a couple of years ago.

But yes that is still the flag as you know. We need to change the flag, chop down the cross on Mount Royal and change the names of half the streets and half the towns, if we don't want to see female cops wearing face coverings? Yeah, right.

All the while we actually do live in a country where the head of state is also the head of the Church of England.

It's as if Quebec were independent and we had the Pope's picture on our money and he was legally the official owner of all government property.
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Liojackian strawman tactic: 100%. Bravo.
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Uhh... francophones living in Canada?
Franco Quebecois represent all Francophones in Canada?
     
     
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For the record, I am in favour of religious symbols. For historical purposes. For freedom of expression. I don't think the Quebec flag should be changed (it is magnificent). I don't think the crucifix in the National Assembly needed to be removed. I don't think people should shy away from saying "Joyeux Noël".

I thought you guys were all big on "freedom of speech". Of course there are reasonable limits on freedom of speech (yelling "fire" in a crowded auditorium, when there is no fire, for example). But wearing a crucifix or a headscarf is somehow...a bad thing?

Freedom of speech when it comes to the hate and vitriol of Trump and his supporters? Check.
Freedom of speech when it comes to government employees and teachers wanting to wear a headscarf or crucifix? Quelle horreur!!

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Uhh... francophones living in Canada?
Not Quebeckers then. Not anglos or allos. I hear you.

"Nous" but missing some people that have lived there for centuries and have made lasting contributions to that province and country.

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