Downtown Vancouver Updates II

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Yes, lets chase a diversity of businesses from Gastown so it becomes a bar zone. Because that's worked out so well for the stabby Granville Street Vomitarium.

Add more businesses to Gastown? That's a wonderful idea; the run-down part of Granville's like that because half the units are empty.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Yes, lets chase a diversity of businesses from Gastown so it becomes a bar zone. Because that's worked out so well for the stabby Granville Street Vomitarium.

I've never understood this talking point. Granville north of Robson is all car free (with busses + taxis mind you), and has a diversity of businesses (hell, there's a SleepCountry) and no bars. In fact, I'd much rather be north of Robson than south of Smithe at any time of day.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Changing City

It was ABC's idea. All the City's webpages related to the project start 'As directed by Council. The motion was submitted by councillor Kirby-Yung, and includes looking at making Water Street car-free or car-light on a seasonal or year-round basis. So this is just the initial test of what could happen.

If you are opposed to a two month trial of a short section being restricted to vehicles, you seem to be suggesting that Water Street should have remained a traffic sewer, with no attempt to change it?

No, they should have committed to a trial that also included months where locals would be the driving force in business activity though. I also expect ABC to admit if it has been harmful to businesses and act accordingly.

[Vin]

If the City has a lax attitude about drug use, loitering by undesirables, and general street lawlessness, especially at areas with a huge concentration of supportive housing and associated services, pedestrians who benefit the businesses of the area most will likely avoid them. In many cities around the world, there are beat cops patrolling the streets, or even "tourist" police available for visitors and business owners to feel safe even during late hour visits. There is well-timed and constant street cleaning throughout the day to prevent garbage or pissy-street smell building up. Those who break the law should be fined or even jailed. ABC need to improve in all these areas before we can have successful full-pedestrian streets, particularly at more challenging locations.

[madog222]

Originally Posted by Vin

If the City has a lax attitude about drug use, loitering by undesirables, and general street lawlessness, especially at areas with a huge concentration of supportive housing and associated services, pedestrians who benefit the businesses of the area most will likely avoid them. In many cities around the world, there are beat cops patrolling the streets, or even "tourist" police available for visitors and business owners to feel safe even during late hour visits. There is well-timed and constant street cleaning throughout the day to prevent garbage or pissy-street smell building up. ABC needs to improve in all these areas before we can have successful full-pedestrian streets, particularly at more challenging locations.

Don't you have your own containment thread for this drivel?

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by Vin

If the City has a lax attitude about drug use, loitering by undesirables, and general street lawlessness, especially at areas with a huge concentration of supportive housing and associated services, pedestrians who benefit the businesses of the area most will likely avoid them. In many cities around the world, there are beat cops patrolling the streets, or even "tourist" police available for visitors and business owners to feel safe even during late hour visits. There is well-timed and constant street cleaning throughout the day to prevent garbage or pissy-street smell building up. Those who break the law should be fined or even jailed. ABC need to improve in all these areas before we can have successful full-pedestrian streets, particularly at more challenging locations.

One could argue with more space to walk there is more room to avoid bad characters.

[madog222]

Changes coming to Park Place? Submitted by MCM.

I would like to apply for City Building Grades for 666 Burrard Street. Office name is Park Plaza. Site specific along Burrard and fronting the urban plaza to Dunsmuir and Hornby street. Lane is not being touched.

https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public...ctId=234683766

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by madog222

Changes coming to Park Place? Submitted by MCM.


https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public...ctId=234683766

Same person is connected to this permit July 18

Work Description: Interior alterations to reduce the unit size of this existing Retail Limited Food Service and add a service room on the B1 Concourse level at this commercial building on this site.

https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public...ctId=236823233

[madog222]

Nothing of interest.

[jollyburger]

Prima recently announced its latest plans to launch Monogram. It's a 49-storey, mixed-use high-rise located at the corner of Burrard and Davie streets.

Permitted under the City of Vancouver’s higher building policy, the tower will have 260 strata condos ranging from one bedroom to three bedrooms, plus 50 rental units. It will also include a mix of commercial units as well as a 49th-floor, 1,860-square-foot rooftop lounge for residents.

"We feel it's a good time for local buyers to get back into the downtown market," David Buddle, vice president of Prima Properties, said in an interview with RENX.

The building will feature a city-operated daycare with outdoor play areas, four retail spaces, office space, a ground-level cafe/bistro and a public art plaza as part of its community amenity contribution package.

Monogram will also serve as the hub for a community arts and culture centre managed by the City of Vancouver that will provide space for non-profit arts and culture organizations.

The southwest exterior features a series of automatic solar shades that will display a pixelated mosaic.

“The shades will drop automatically as the sun hits them, to stop solar gain within the suite, but also create a visual animation outside,” Buddle said. From the exterior, the shades will depict the North Shore Mountains. Residents can manually open their unit’s shades if they desire.

Last month, Monogram was reported by real estate media to be among four downtown condo projects with stalled rezoning processes, with the developers requesting to extend the final (and conditional) rezoning window with the city.

When asked to clarify the decision to move forward now with the project, Prima's team said the initial rezoning for Monogram occurred during COVID, and the city processing times were longer. It took time to work through the legal agreements for the on-site day care, the cultural hub offices and public corner plaza.

Buddle confirmed to RENX his team is ready to go before council this fall to proceed with enacting the rezoning for the site.

“It’s been a long process to get through,” Buddle said. Prima has owned the property since the early 2000s. It was eventually converted into a community garden as the firm waited for the West End Plan to develop.

“After that, we started talking to the city with letters of enquiry and then we landed on what we could build there.” He said the site allows for additional height, although it was designed to fit within the city’s view cone requirements, resulting in unique angling of the tower.

https://renx.ca/prima-properties-loc...er-condo-tower

[s211]

Originally Posted by madog222

Nothing of interest.

That concourse level has really lost its purpose for small retail services, etc. When the (Italian?) restaurant left many years ago, that was a nail in the coffin way back when.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by s211

That concourse level has really lost its purpose for small retail services, etc. When the (Italian?) restaurant left many years ago, that was a nail in the coffin way back when.

They opened a Japanese bagel place that seems to be popular (?)

Maybe the bank is leaving and they are going to do something with the unit?

[Feathered Friend]

Google Earth


https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public...ctId=236880489

Talk about a room with a view! This 29 floor building hopes to replace the Rosellen Suites at the edge of Stanley Park with 292 hotel rooms. It also supersedes a previously approved 2018 proposal by Marcon for a 10 storey, 19 strata home development.

https://x.com/City_Duo/status/1820929193242223014

[Vin]

Looks good! This is exactly the type of development we need in the West End, although adding a few more stories wouldn't hurt. Let's bring in even more hotel and rental spaces downtown. I love it when commercial spaces are now also allowed in traditional residential neighbourhoods.

[chowhou]

Funny how when you ban individuals from providing short term rentals, the market adapts...

So much for additional housing supply from banning STR.

[whatnext]

Gee, funny how the Henriquez proposal for $4 million condos went tits-up.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by chowhou

Funny how when you ban individuals from providing short term rentals, the market adapts...

So much for additional housing supply from banning STR.

Rosellen Suites is operated as a hotel. The new proposal is to develop a bigger hotel. In the meantime many of the previously illegally operated short term rentals are being sold to new owners or being rented as normal rentals.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by Changing City

Rosellen Suites is operated as a hotel. The new proposal is to develop a bigger hotel. In the meantime many of the previously illegally operated short term rentals are being sold to new owners or being rented as normal rentals.

Always looking to argue I see.

I'll direct you to read I suppose.

It also supersedes a previously approved 2018 proposal by Marcon for a 10 storey, 19 strata home development.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by chowhou

Always looking to argue I see.

I'll direct you to read I suppose.

In this case a small hotel is proposed as a larger hotel, so your comment about short term rentals is irrelevant. Marcon never built the condo building, so no housing is being lost.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by Changing City

In this case a small hotel is proposed as a larger hotel, so your comment about short term rentals is irrelevant. Marcon never built the condo building, so no housing is being lost.

A strata housing building plan was scrapped in favour of a hotel (short term rental) plan. The point is clearly going straight over your head. No housing was lost, but as I originally stated quite clearly, the market adapts and housing development has been de-prioritized in favour of hotel (short term rental) development.

I know, I know, you don't believe in supply, but the facts are the facts regardless of how much you want to argue all the time.