Quebec, the French Language, and Quebecois Identity

[P'tit Renard]

Infoman in Paris lol the Céline bit is cute:

Une promenade dans Paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyDi7IqA9R4

Les aventures de la flamme olympique
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSySQOEiVDc

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

Infoman in Paris lol the Céline bit is cute:

Une promenade dans Paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyDi7IqA9R4

Les aventures de la flamme olympique
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSySQOEiVDc

If what (some) ROCers say is true, how can this Quebec reporter possibly communicate with random Parisians on the street without using English as a lingua franca?

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by kool maudit

I liked the horse, though. I don't think this was the pale horse, like the Christians are saying. I think he was like something from Marinetti, some sort of machine-totem of our technical age.

Pale? it looked like shiny metallic grey to me.

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by Acajack

If what (some) ROCers say is true, how can this Quebec reporter possibly communicate with random Parisians on the street without using English as a lingua franca?

I was curious to see how much code switching from even Radio Canada standard French he did but they edited out the questions interestinlgly.

[mousquet]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

La Nouvelle France salue la France nouvelle. De l'importance des majuscules et minuscules en français...

And the crucial importance of the spot of an adjective in French syntax in some cases.

Un homme petit may be un grand homme.
Un homme grand may be un petit homme.

English-speakers will struggle to get this. This is the kind of subtleties that make the language funny.

Edit: wait, I must explain to them, though.

A small/short man may be a great man.
A tall man may be a poor/mediocre man.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

I was curious to see how much code switching from even Radio Canada standard French he did but they edited out the questions interestinlgly.

Probably not much if at all. Radio-Canada standard French (which is a thing) is perfectly understandable to anyone in France.

[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Ils sont Français après tout. Parfois ils aiment provoquer tout simplement pour l'amour de provoquer.

No. They are Parisian left-wingers. France cannot be reduced to just Parisian left-wingers, who make up only a very small segment of the population.

It was one of those bizarre moves by Macron, one of many, entrusting the ceremony to well known left-wingers from the Parisian bubble, as if anything good could be expected from that. But then Macron has proven again and again that he is a left-winger for social and identity issues.

[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by kool maudit

I liked the horse, though. I don't think this was the pale horse, like the Christians are saying. I think he was like something from Marinetti, some sort of machine-totem of our technical age.

According to the organizers, it was supposed to symbolize the Celtic goddess of the Seine River, Sequana, but some historians have pointed out that they mixed up two different Gallic goddesses. The one riding a horse is another goddess. Sequana was depicted by the Gauls as a female figure standing on a boat (which makes much more sense).

So in the mind of the organizers, it was Sequana, Celtic goddess of the Seine River, who was carrying the torch.

[Hecate]

People are such losers… the show was awesome. Best opening ceremonies. Loved the boats the tableaux’s and Celine was epic. There were a few lame moments. The threesome was dumb and should have been two straight lovers. I’m gay so I can say that. The cut off of the blue bearded guy on cbc sucked. But the fashion show was fun and lively, and had like nothing to do with the last supper… why was a connection even made between the two… I don’t know. But honestly…great show.

Too bad all these religious losers can’t get mad about real shit lik… I dunno… child poverty.

[mousquet]

Harris Interactive carried out a survey on July 27, Saturday, 2 days ago.
According to it, at least 85% of the French population thought the ceremony was a success.

Unless you think Harris Interactive is some sort of secret Jewish organization to ruin Christianity, which is highly unlikely, you must admit that the ceremony was not just Parisian, but representative of France as a whole indeed.
Besides, most so-called artists, such as dancers would've been hired from entire France, not just from the Paris area.

I'm kind of sick of the French far-right complaining about the Paris metropolis whenever anything pisses them off.
Who's the ugly, nasty Jacobins? Certainly not kind innocent liberals like myself...
They are the Jacobins, along with the far left.

[New Brisavoine]

Bon sinon.



And I'm watching the final in women's saber now, where the two finalists are... French women, so that will be one more gold and and more silver medal for France tonight.

[kwoldtimer]

Perhaps time to move on or to open a different thread for the Olympics.

[mousquet]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

Bon sinon.

What?? France ranked #2 to Japan right now.
We have 5 gold, 8 silver and 3 bronze medals as we speak.

I know, this is only the beginning and the 2 weeks are going to be long.
But the French crowd is unleashed. Tribes are showing up from all over the country.
This is to give wings to our athletes.

Did you see how they celebrated alien Léon at la Défense's arena last night? He's going to loot the cupboard full of gold. He'll take no prisoner. He's going to waste them all.
I bet he was frustrated not to beat his own world record yesterday, so he'll do even better on the next races.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

Bon sinon.

I have no dog in this fight but it seems to me the real count is the weighted one (that's mousquet's point and I haven't done the math but at first sight, Japan is #2)

I also seem to recall that some people / some sources used to only count gold medals as the only ones that matter, the logic probably being that silver is the first loser. In that case Japan is first and South Korea and China second and third.

[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by lio45

I have no dog in this fight but it seems to me the real count is the weighted one (that's mousquet's point and I haven't done the math but at first sight, Japan is #2)

Nope, because after tonight's final in women's saber (where the two finalists were French women), France is now #2 either in gold medal count or in total medal count.

But Kwoldtimer is right, perhaps this should be moved to a dedicated thread.

By the way, what percentage of Canadian medals in Summer Olympics are due to Québec athletes in general you would say?

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

By the way, what percentage of Canadian medals in Summer Olympics are due to Québec athletes in general you would say?

Why does it matter? A Canadian is a Canadien is a Canadian

[Ozabald]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

Nope, because after tonight's final in women's saber (where the two finalists were French women), France is now #2 either in gold medal count or in total medal count.

But Kwoldtimer is right, perhaps this should be moved to a dedicated thread.

By the way, what percentage of Canadian medals in Summer Olympics are due to Québec athletes in general you would say?

What percentage of the French medals are from athletes from Franco-Africa?

[New Brisavoine]

^^"Franco-Africa" doesn't exist, whereas Québec does exist, and a significant percentage of their population even want to achieve independence.

[le calmar]

Host countries tend to win more medals overall. Fully expecting France to remain in the top 3 until the end.

[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by le calmar

Host countries tend to win more medals overall. Fully expecting France to remain in the top 3 until the end.

Very unlikely, because US and China will be #1 and #2 (in which order I don't know), and the UK (which used to be miserable in Olympic games) will probably be #3, because for chauvinistic reasons they have invested a lot in cycling and rowing, which grant an incomprehensibly high number of medals. The French, as usual, haven't been strategic. Macron in 2017 wanted France to invest in sports which grant lots of medals, like the Brits have done, but he wasn't followed. Instead, France is strong in sports that bring little medals, such as team sports. France is also abysmal in athletics (because performance is not valued in France, especially by the Left, whereas team sports are more valued by the Left).

It's still beyond me how the country of the Tour de France, which basically invented modern cycling, hasn't invested more in cycling!!! This would have brought scores of medals.

I think we'll be lucky if we end up in the top 5. (although the first few days have been impressive for sure, but France is always impressive in the first few days, when the games it's good at happen, then starting from the 2nd week it's the crossing of the desert, no more medals)