The Official Moncton, NB Project Thread

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by DyAm00394

AllNewBrunswick has an interesting new article headline:
“Homes For 40,000 In Moncton’s Vision Lands?”.

Given the amount of land they want to preserve around Hall's Creek for a natural parkland, it appears they are thinking pretty high density.

Does anyone have access to the AllNB article???

[tmacdougall]

Highlights AllNB - Vision Lands (19/07/24)
- Roughly 541 acres
- Roughly 18,000 residential, single to high-density units (40,000 people)
- 1M sq. ft. of commercial space
- 2 new schools
- 1 new recreational facility
- estimated 200 acres of green space
- city officials working with the Irvings that could see the highest density, where heights could reach 12 to 18 stories.
- New infrastructure required and the city plans to cost-share with developers

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Given the amount of land they want to preserve around Hall's Creek for a natural parkland, it appears they are thinking pretty high density.

Does anyone have access to the AllNB article???

[MonctonRad]

Sounds impressive. I look forward to the city releasing more information about this plan.

I am particularly impressed they are connecting with Irving regarding the possibility of a cluster of apartment buildings 12-18 storeys in height. The Irving property is close to the TCH near Mapleton and would be visually interesting to passing traffic on the TCH. The Irving lands presumably would also be the focus for the 1M sq ft of commercial space envisioned. This has the makings of an impressive suburban town centre.

Engagement with the landowners is essential to make anything like this work.

[adamuptownsj]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Sounds impressive. I look forward to the city releasing more information about this plan.

I am particularly impressed they are connecting with Irving regarding the possibility of a cluster of apartment buildings 12-18 storeys in height. The Irving property is close to the TCH near Mapleton and would be visually interesting to passing traffic on the TCH. The Irving lands presumably would also be the focus for the 1M sq ft of commercial space envisioned. This has the makings of an impressive suburban town centre.

Engagement with the landowners is essential to make anything like this work.

Maybe this will spur an 'Irving Development' sub-business.. there's lots of under- or unused Irving land in basically every city in the province.

[MonctonRad]

Very interesting graphic posted by q12 over on the Halifax subforum:



This shows high rise construction activity in North America as of July 2024.

By and large Canada is blowing the US out of the water (4 out of the top 10 city total highrise projects under construction, and 9 out of the top 10 per capita).

Only Halifax and Moncton show up in the Maritimes. We have two under construction (presumably the second and third Sister. If the stars aligned next year, we coild have as many as 4-5 under construction concurrently (Third Sister, at least one Gateway tower, the Infinity Tower and St. Bernard Place).

[jonny golden]

If the stars aligned next year, we could have as many as 4-5 under construction concurrently (Third Sister, at least one Gateway tower, the Infinity Tower and St. Bernard Place).

There is something I've been wondering about. It's obvious that the ICON development in Riverview will take a few years to complete, being 3 concrete buildings x 6 floors each. Can ICON continue full speed with this project, and simultaneously build the Infinity building? That's a lot to be working on at the same time.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by jonny golden

There is something I've been wondering about. It's obvious that the ICON development in Riverview will take a few years to complete, being 3 concrete buildings x 6 floors each. Can ICON continue full speed with this project, and simultaneously build the Infinity building? That's a lot to be working on at the same time.

Who's to say ICON is going to build the Riverview development all at once? Maybe their initial commitment is only to the first building, after which (next year) they will shift their focus to the Infinity Tower.

I have a strong suspicion they want to start Infinity as soon as possible.

[jonny golden]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Who's to say ICON is going to build the Riverview development all at once? Maybe their initial commitment is only to the first building, after which (next year) they will shift their focus to the Infinity Tower.

I have a strong suspicion they want to start Infinity as soon as possible.

Good point. I really hope Infinity remains at 30 floors and they start next year. Add in the Saint Bernard project and we're talking about two major additions to the Moncton skyline.

[sailor734]

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[MonctonRad]

So, as part of the rezoning process for the Gateway Towers, they have decided to update the Downtown Moncton Core Community Improvement Plan to include the Three Sisters and Gateway Towers developments.

I decided to screen capture several of the key images for discussion.

Overview:


- You can see the Three Sisters and the Gateway Towers added in on the bottom left of the image.
- Other buildings have been added in on the ocean of surface parking (all fanciful), but, you can see the completed Downing Street, including the proposed roundabout at it's intersection with Assumption. You can also see the completed Ashford Development, including the city market/convention space (strategically adjacent to the Delta Beausejour), as well as the "signature tower" on the NW corner of the roundabout (height TBD). The new east west street south of Main lies between these two components of the Ashford project.

Master Plan Legend:


- The numbers on the legend correspond to proposals (no doubt some fanciful) within the development area.
- The most intriguing one to me is #11 "new academic facility", which will be located behind the courthouse. How certain is this? What type of "academic facility" will this be? UNB recently mentioned in the media about having an enhanced presence in Moncton. Could this be a small downtown campus for UNBM? Or, could it be something more boring, such as a relocated UdeM law faculty (given it's location next to the law courts). Enquiring minds most certainly want to know.
- #6 is a "future civic project." This is located on the little parking lot behind Blue Cross. Could this be a new downtown library? Another possibility could be a modern art museum (as previously hinted at). This is an important lot right on Downing Street, so, an important civic building seems reasonable.

Public Space Network:


- This image shows all the parkland, and the mixed use corridors planned in the development area. Of note, the NB Power lot next to the Gateway Towers appears to be designated as greenspace, but, this is privately held land, and, could be purchased for development instead. How set in stone is the plan to have this reserved for greenspace? Could another couple of towers be built here to complement the Gateway Towers? Anything built here would not impact on the riverfront trail system.
- Also, #7 (the small bit of land to the south of the Third Sister) has been designated as a "stormwater detention area." It would appear that development here will not be possible.
- Otherwise, the plan seems very pedestrian minded, with lots of interconnectivity between all the public spaces, some using mixed use corridors. You can also see all the connection point to the Riverfront Park from the downtown core, one of which extends between the two Gateway towers.

Street Network:


- Pretty self explanatory. It will be very nice to see an actual street gid reestablished south of Main Street. There appears to be an emphasis for on street parking. This is not just a business friendly decision. On street parking by it's very nature is a bit of a traffic calming technique.

Thoughts anyone???