Gultch/CIM Group Development - Page 43

smArTaLlone · #**841** Posted **Jul 8, 2024, 11:44 AM**

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I think this is going to be a nice looking building. The diagonal corner column creates an inviting open space that is visually appealing from the street level. This is the residential tower, isn't it?

Correct. Here is the rendering from the same viewpoint.

ATLMidcity · #**842** Posted **Jul 16, 2024, 3:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

The land development permit for 88 Elliott Street is now "ready to issue".

When are they going to break ground on these homes?

Labtec · #**843** Posted **Jul 16, 2024, 4:17 PM**

Hopefully there is a supermarket that's going to be one of the tenants here. The nearest one is Walmart, but that's like a 1.5-mile walk each way.

Sojourner_Terminus · #**844** Posted **Jul 16, 2024, 5:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by Labtec

Hopefully there is a supermarket that's going to be one of the tenants here. The nearest one is Walmart, but that's like a 1.5-mile walk each way.

I want a grocery store so bad in one of these CY buildings. NewPort had one planned before their plans imploded, and much as i may admire what the Tech Village team is trying to do there, idk if they have the plans for something like that.

atlnative73 · #**845** Posted **Jul 17, 2024, 3:57 PM**

No grocery stores yet probably due to the same reason Walgreens at five points closed. "Shrinkage" or the perception.

Sojourner_Terminus · #**846** Posted **Jul 17, 2024, 5:17 PM**

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No grocery stores yet probably due to the same reason Walgreens at five points closed. "Shrinkage" or the perception.

Sadly the shrinkage and general disregard is real. I know a lot of people think its all a big conspiracy by the large corporations, but people treated that walgreens like shit. Literally. I started attending GSU last year, and saw people openly defecating on that walgreens twice. I actually witnessed it and saw the results. Several times i walked by and noticed the windows cracked from someone either throwing something at them or bashing it. Inside the store kids and adults stealing very casually. Its crazy because GSU police precinct is right there and you see them patrolling around semi regularly.

Anyways, its obvious why they're leaving, but im very sad to see them go. I want so badly for downtown to be a convenient, livable place, but it can be quite dystopic at times.

montydawg · #**847** Posted **Jul 18, 2024, 1:26 PM**

I stayed at the Omni hotel last night. Sad to see the CNn newsroom empty.

I’m excited to see the entertainment district has started construction. They are removing soil from the gultch parking lot. The corner of the CNn deck that will be demolished is roped off. The first 6 floors of the hotel building next door has glass curtain wall already installed. Great progress.

Also, I ate at new relm brewery last night. The skyline was barely visible with all the new high rises in the area of ponce city market. What a transformation.

mackiejamieson · #**848** Posted **Jul 18, 2024, 2:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sojourner_Terminus

I want a grocery store so bad in one of these CY buildings. NewPort had one planned before their plans imploded, and much as i may admire what the Tech Village team is trying to do there, idk if they have the plans for something like that.

A bodega would go well before a full scale supermarket

Sojourner_Terminus · #**849** Posted **Jul 18, 2024, 3:05 PM**

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A bodega would go well before a full scale supermarket

I wish i could shotgun blast 100 bodegas throughout the city. I do think a bodega would be great in the gulch development, but once they start hopefully building a ton of rental units, they really are going to need a full-fledged, walk-able grocery store in downtown.

newuserbuckhead · #**850** Posted **Jul 18, 2024, 7:26 PM**

NYC has a population density of 29K/sqmi while Atlanta is a pitiful 671. Even Midtown Atlanta is only at 8K/sqmi. You need VASTLY more people to support what any of you are talking about in terms of grocery stores/bodegas. PLEASE, for the love of God, put some common sense into your wishes. If you did that, we might actually start moving in a positive direction for the city as a whole. The Entire CIM development won't move the needle much on population and population density. Don't get me wrong, this is a fantastic development and a big boost to Downtown as a whole, but we need like 5 more of these Downtown.

KAY141 · #**851** Posted **Jul 19, 2024, 12:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by newuserbuckhead

NYC has a population density of 29K/sqmi while Atlanta is a pitiful 671. Even Midtown Atlanta is only at 8K/sqmi. You need VASTLY more people to support what any of you are talking about in terms of grocery stores/bodegas. PLEASE, for the love of God, put some common sense into your wishes. If you did that, we might actually start moving in a positive direction for the city as a whole. The Entire CIM development won't move the needle much on population and population density. Don't get me wrong, this is a fantastic development and a big boost to Downtown as a whole, but we need like 5 more of these Downtown.

As of 2023, Atlanta's population density was 3,685.45 people per square mile I haven't seen any updated information about the density of midtown but in 2011 it had a density of more than 11,000 people per square mile it has to be much higher than that by now

bryantm3 · #**852** Posted **Jul 19, 2024, 11:53 AM**

I think I remember being surprised in the 2020 census by the density of a few of the midtown tracts. I think there was one that was close to 50,000 people per square mile. But yeah generally you are correct, outside of a few corridors the city is lower density.

RocketSurgeon · #**853** Posted **Jul 19, 2024, 11:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by KAY141

As of 2023, Atlanta's population density was 3,685.45 people per square mile I haven't seen any updated information about the density of midtown but in 2011 it had a density of more than 11,000 people per square mile it has to be much higher than that by now

It amazes me how people will come up with such specific numbers (671) that are so completely wrong

Are they making them up with random digits or are they actually researching them without understanding what they are?

Either way, someone else with a bone to pick with Atlanta will read that, believe it, and repeat it ... and so another bullshit "fact" is born

Atlurbsandspices · #**854** Posted **Jul 19, 2024, 1:07 PM**

Those numbers all seemed wrong to me, but it is true that CY is planning only like 40% of the housing units I would hope for that area

montydawg · #**855** Posted **Jul 19, 2024, 1:27 PM**

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Those numbers all seemed wrong to me, but it is true that CY is planning only like 40% of the housing units I would hope for that area

My experience staying at the Omni hotel has been good and bad. It is hard for me to conceive most people wanting to live downtown. I’m a 6foot 40yo male but walking at night has been sketchy at best. My female friend visiting said she got approached repeatedly by people asking for money and people who appear to be under the influence. These issues plague many warm weather cities, but unfortunately this will continue to be hindrance to developing downtown. While closing of peachtree/pine shelter was considered a step in the positive direction, it has not ‘solved’ any issues as I believe some had hoped. Until the government invests more in mental health at the federal level, this will continue to be an issue plaguing cities.

tinyslam · #**856** Posted **Jul 19, 2024, 2:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by newuserbuckhead

NYC has a population density of 29K/sqmi while Atlanta is a pitiful 671. Even Midtown Atlanta is only at 8K/sqmi. You need VASTLY more people to support what any of you are talking about in terms of grocery stores/bodegas. PLEASE, for the love of God, put some common sense into your wishes. If you did that, we might actually start moving in a positive direction for the city as a whole. The Entire CIM development won't move the needle much on population and population density. Don't get me wrong, this is a fantastic development and a big boost to Downtown as a whole, but we need like 5 more of these Downtown.

671 people/sq mile is the population density for Metro Atlanta which covers a 6th of the state of Georgia by area. That number has no bearing whatsoever on what any specific area can support in terms of groceries/bodegas. The dense areas of the city absolutely could support more bodegas, especially as more development further densifies those areas.

mackiejamieson · #**857** Posted **Jul 19, 2024, 7:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by newuserbuckhead

NYC has a population density of 29K/sqmi while Atlanta is a pitiful 671. Even Midtown Atlanta is only at 8K/sqmi. You need VASTLY more people to support what any of you are talking about in terms of grocery stores/bodegas. PLEASE, for the love of God, put some common sense into your wishes. If you did that, we might actually start moving in a positive direction for the city as a whole. The Entire CIM development won't move the needle much on population and population density. Don't get me wrong, this is a fantastic development and a big boost to Downtown as a whole, but we need like 5 more of these Downtown.

As someone who lives downtown and knows my neighbors - a bodega would be well patronized.

mohaas05 · #**858** Posted **Yesterday, 8:16 PM**

https://atlanta.urbanize.city/post/c...nt-dome-images

smArTaLlone · #**859** Posted **Yesterday, 10:11 PM**

https://whatnowatlanta.com/cosm-sign...yards-project/

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The development has signed a long-term lease with Cosm, a leading immerse technology, media, and entertainment company. The venue will include an 87-foot LED dome and three stories of immersive technology-based entertainment.

This will be COSM’s third location, after Los Angeles and Dallas.

The Los Angeles venue just opened last month.