BC Provincial Government Housing Policies 2023

[Migrant_Coconut]

Careful with "dumb." But sure - 4% of Canadians are blind, 4% are deaf, and 1-2% are on the spectrum (not counting other mental disorders)... which still leaves just over 11% in need of larger bathrooms. So I guess you could knock it down to 25-35%.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Careful with "dumb." But sure - 4% of Canadians are blind, 4% are deaf, and 1-2% are on the spectrum (not counting other mental disorders)... which still leaves just over 11% in need of larger bathrooms. So I guess you could knock it down to 25-35%.

I guess Pinball Wizards don't have much media representation anymore (among the many other uses of the phrase)... Maybe lookup who a dumb, deaf, blind kid might be before prematurely casting judgement!

(FYI, dumb in the context of "dumb, deaf, and blind" means unable to speak.)

[Migrant_Coconut]

YMMV - far as I'm concerned, any album before Who's Next (any album after, to a lesser degree) is ancient history.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by chowhou

It's close to impossible to argue against feelgood policies since you're always going to sound insensitive.

Remember that almost every policy that supresses housing supply in BC comes from original good intentions!

Indeed. When a couple has a child do they complain their existing accommodations no longer fit their needs? No, they move. We seem to be building quite a few buildings for seniors, surely the gov’t could cough up some money to build housing for younger people with mobility issues rather than pass the increased costs on to every new home buyer.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Going to point out the difference between planned parenthood and unplanned injuries. You have up to ten months' advanced notice that a baby's on the way.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Going to point out the difference between planned parenthood and unplanned injuries. You have up to ten months' advanced notice that a baby's on the way.

True. How fast do you think they can build one of Eby’s new units and then move the entire population into one?

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by whatnext

True. How fast do you think they can build one of Eby’s new units and then move the entire population into one?

... Why would they move the entire population into one unit?

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

... Why would they move the entire population into one unit?

How else would you guard against your hypothetical sudden loss of mobility scenario?

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Going to point out the difference between planned parenthood and unplanned injuries. You have up to ten months' advanced notice that a baby's on the way.

https://www.guttmacher.org/regions/n...america/canada

In Canada in 2015–2019, there were a total of 570,000 pregnancies annually. Of these, 265,000 pregnancies were unintended and 97,500 ended in abortion.

Almost 1 in 3 children in Canada are unplanned. Should we change the building codes for them?

Also wasn't the biggest argument here that seniors should be able to just stay in their homes forever, knowing that one day they might become disabled? Why do we assume parents having ten months is enough time to plan for needing more space, but we pretend that seniors having 20 years+ isn't enough time to plan for needing more space?

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by whatnext

How else would you guard against your hypothetical sudden loss of mobility scenario?

By building as many mobility-friendly units as necessary, as the new building code calls for? It's a much less ridiculous ask than turning all of Vancouver into one big apartment.

Originally Posted by chowhou

Almost 1 in 3 children in Canada are unplanned. Should we change the building codes for them?

Also wasn't the biggest argument here that seniors should be able to just stay in their homes forever, knowing that one day they might become disabled? Why do we assume parents having ten months is enough time to plan for needing more space, but we pretend that seniors having 20 years+ isn't enough time to plan for needing more space?

I'm going off whatnext's hypothetical assumption that all families even need bigger homes. I know some who stayed where they were.

Also, both of you are missing the point: there needs to be enough available adapted units to move into in the first place.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Also, both of you are missing the point: there needs to be enough available adapted units to move into in the first place.

You're missing my point; Do 100% of all units really need to be adaptable?

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by chowhou

You're missing my point; Do 100% of all units really need to be adaptable?

Did I not say yesterday that 30-40% would likely be a good compromise?

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Did I not say yesterday that 30-40% would likely be a good compromise?

There is no compromise in Eby’s plan. Leftcoaster gave you a real world example of the extra costs involved. Now multiply that across just one 200 unit building.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by whatnext

There is no compromise in Eby’s plan. Leftcoaster gave you a real world example of the extra costs involved. Now multiply that across just one 200 unit building.

Funny to see you on the "build more" side this week.

As others have pointed out, this really only affects studio apartments and small 1-beds. If the Dippers can be negotiated down to 40%, fine; if not, also fine.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Funny to see you on the "build more" side this week.

As others have pointed out, this really only affects studio apartments and small 1-beds. If the Dippers can be negotiated down to 40%, fine; if not, also fine.

I’m not sure why one would conclude it only affects studios or 1 beds. Read this section of Leftcoaster’s post:

…the expansion doesn't result in larger living rooms or kitchens where people spend most of their time, it results in oversized bathrooms, bedrooms and hallways. And that space isn't free…

If anything 2 beds will have more hallway space impacted and one more bathroom that will have to be enlarged. Kitchen would be the same size for both these days.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by whatnext

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Except two-beds already have more space in general (by extension, more hallway and bed/bath space) than one-beds. It's reasonable that the new regs'll affect a 500 sq ft unit a lot more than a 1000 sq ft one.

[NewfBC]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Except two-beds already have more space in general (by extension, more hallway and bed/bath space) than one-beds. It's reasonable that the new regs'll affect a 500 sq ft unit a lot more than a 1000 sq ft one.

But.. there are a lot of 6-700 sq ft '2 bedrooms' now.

Ron.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Likewise, several studios have as little as 200 sq ft these days. Same difference.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Likewise, several studios have as little as 200 sq ft these days. Same difference.

No better illustration of our declining standard of living than that.

[Migrant_Coconut]

In which case mandating larger units is likely a net improvement.