Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 5

[delts145]

38 Largest CSA's in the U.S.A. - over 2 Million population - 2023

https://www.citypopulation.de/en/usa/combmetro/

...........................................................2020.................2023

1... New York - Newark...............................22,432,947..........21,859,598

2... Los Angeles - Long Beach.....................18,644,655...........18,316,743

3... Washington - Baltimore - Arlington........10,028,347...........10,069,592

4... Chicago - Naperville.............................9,987,897.............9,794,558

5... San Jose - San Francisco - Oakland........9,225,162.............9,001,024

6... Dallas - Fort Worth...............................8,157,915............8,654,750

7... Boston - Worcester - Providence............8,352,751............8,345,067

8... Houston - Pasadena.............................7,339,637............7,706,626

9... Philadelphia/Reading/Camden...............7,379,687............7,390,919

10. Atlanta/Athens/Sandy Springs...............6,977,979............7,221,137

11. Miami/Port St. Lucie/Fort Lauderdale......6,908,321............7,011,936

12. Detroit - Warren - Ann Arbor..................5,425,089...........5,361,927

13. Phoenix - Mesa....................................4,904,373...........5,124,113

14. Seattle - Tacoma.................................4,953,442............4,993,725

15. Orlando - Lakeland - Deltona ................4,197,093...........4,509,624

16. Minneapolis - St. Paul...........................4,078,801...........4,104,786

17. Cleveland - Akron - Canton.................. 3,769,741............3,732,803

18. Denver - Aurora - Greeley................... 3,623,560............3,691,404

19. Charlotte - Concord.............................3,232,231............3,387,115

20. Tampa - St. Petersburg - Clearwater.......3,175,291............3,342,963

21. Portland - Vancouver - Salem................3,280,706............3,286,669

22. San Diego - Chula Vista - Carlsbad.........3,298,648............3,269,973

23. St. Louis - St. Charles - Farmington........2,924,940............2,900,730

24. Salt Lake City - Ogden - Provo....2,705,697........2,805,734

25. San Antonio/New Braunfels/Kerrville.......2,637,432............2,785,647

26. Pittsburgh - Weirton - Steubenville.........2,767,819............2,727,866

27. Sacramento - Roseville.........................2,680,839............2,706,315

28. New Haven - Hartford - Waterbury.........2,659,619............2,665,618

29. Indianapolis - Carmel - Muncie..............2,599,868............2,651,953

30. Columbus - Marion - Zanesville..............2,606,494............2,646,917

31. Kansas City/Overland Park/K.C.Kansas ...2,528,655............2,557,474

32. Austin - Round Rock - San Marcos..........2,283,379............2,473,275

33. Las Vegas - Henderson.........................2,317,063............2,392,293

34. Raleigh - Durham - Cary.......................2,242,298............2,368,947

35. San Juan - Bayamón............................2,414,593............2,360,082

36. Nashville-Davidson - Murfreesboro.........2,250,270............2,350,738

37. Cincinnati - Wilmington........................2,291,803.............2,313,417

38. Milwaukee - Racine - Waukesha............2,053,234.............2,036,833

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[wrendog]

Looks like SLC should pass st Louis soon, but San Antonio may pass SLC...

[Orlando]

I'd like to see a ranking of the fastest growing CSA's.

[Rileybo]

Panorama Photos by me. Summertime in SLC.

[TheGeographer]

Cool to see SLC CSA population in the top 25. Denver’s CSA never made sense to me. Why include Greeley and not Ft Collins? Also why not include Colorado Springs. SLC includes Heber, Tooele and some southern Idaho county. Why not include Logan then? Does anyone know how CSA’s are determined? I noticed the Wikipedia CSA is messed up. They omit San Diego for some reason

[Comrade]

Originally Posted by TheGeographer

Cool to see SLC CSA population in the top 25. Denver’s CSA never made sense to me. Why include Greeley and not Ft Collins? Also why not include Colorado Springs. SLC includes Heber, Tooele and some southern Idaho county. Why not include Logan then? Does anyone know how CSA’s are determined? I noticed the Wikipedia CSA is messed up. They omit San Diego for some reason

CSA is weird. But so is metro. Neither are a good representation of city size.

I do not consider Salt Lake remotely close to Denver's tier and yet, according to CSA, it is.

Conversely, I think SLC is a tier or so higher than places like Birmingham, Raleigh, Providence and Fresno - yet we're essentially considered the same size when referencing MSA.

[Comrade]

[wrendog]

Well,.it's a plan! I guess that means east and west ends stay the same? I thought there were view issues in upper deck still?

[Ironweed]

Originally Posted by wrendog

Well,.it's a plan! I guess that means east and west ends stay the same? I thought there were view issues in upper deck still?

Comrade has been approached to be the mascot for the new NHL team: The 'Clown Yeti'. Comrade's agent is working out the pay package.

[Boz]

Originally Posted by Rileybo

Panorama Photos by me. Summertime in SLC.

Wallpaper updated. Nice shots.

[mstar]

Thanks for those pictures Rileybo!

[i-215]

Originally Posted by Comrade

Conversely, I think SLC is a tier or so higher than places like Birmingham, Raleigh, Providence and Fresno - yet we're essentially considered the same size when referencing MSA.

Agreed. I drive through Fresno regularly.

Salt Lake City feels FAR BIGGER than Fresno. Fresno is so dependent on the Bay Area and Sacramento that it's simply missing a lot of important amenities.

SLC's geographic isolation leads to it having pretty much any amenity you can think of, since it's a regional hub. SLC feels more like a "baby Los Angeles" than it does a "big Fresno."

[tchild2]

Originally Posted by mstar

Thanks for those pictures Rileybo!

I second that.

The panorama shot of SLC at Dusk is quite impressive.

[Atlas]

Took this one about a month ago on a flight coming back from Reno:


SLC Aerial by Astro-magi, on Flickr

[DCRes]

Originally Posted by Atlas

Took this one about a month ago on a flight coming back from Reno:


SLC Aerial by Astro-magi, on Flickr

An MLB stadium sure would look nice in the bottom right of that picture!

[RC14]

^
Even if we don't get an MLB stadium, the Power District is going to transform that view.

[i-215]

Originally Posted by RC14

^
Even if we don't get an MLB stadium, the Power District is going to transform that view.

You make me pose a question I hadn't considered.

Let's say there are new high and mid-rise buildings in the Entertainment District. And then, in some future year, more mid and high-rises along the Rio Grand Plan area (assuming it happens). And the Power District project.

Will one day new the SLC skyline hide the entire old one? Like, the COB, Wells Fargo, temple, etc. all no longer visible?

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And then that gets me thinking further: Does the LDS Church *purposely* keep the parking lots between Triad and Temple Square as surface parking simply to preserve the viewshed of their iconic building?

[Atlas]

Originally Posted by i-215

Will one day new the SLC skyline hide the entire old one? Like, the COB, Wells Fargo, temple, etc. all no longer visible?

Depends on which angle you're viewing from. I don't think the Power District, Rio Grande District, or SEG district will block the classic view coming south on I-15. What these will do is significantly extend the skyline westward. The Power District is far enough away that it will look like a separate skyline altogether except when coming eastward on I-80.

Originally Posted by i-215

And then that gets me thinking further: Does the LDS Church *purposely* keep the parking lots between Triad and Temple Square as surface parking simply to preserve the viewshed of their iconic building?

I think they just like having giant parking lots there for the conveniece. But when they do move on developing it, it would not surprise me if they design it in such a way that some of the Temple's view corridors are maintained.

[nushiof]

SL City Counsel is voting to approve SEG/SLC Participation Agreement tonight right?

I hope it gets approved.

[Comrade]

The City Council voted 7-0 to approve the Smith Plan. It now heads to the state committee, where it will certainly pass, then back to the council for a final vote.