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Originally Posted by Atlas
Gensler is their design firm. They've already done #3 and have been praised for it by the City Council and Japantown.
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I'm very happy to hear that. Gensler appear to be a capable firm of taking on this project. From what's publicly available, you wouldn't know they were involved. Hopefully much more detailed designs are being passed around in the stakeholder meetings you say are happening.
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Originally Posted by bob rulz
SEG was given like, what, 4 months to come up with a preliminary plan? Hardly anybody expected Utah to get an NHL team this upcoming season. And then the state mandated that the plan get moving within a very short time frame. If you think it's a half-baked plan, I would put most of the blame on the NHL and the Utah legislature.
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And perhaps that's the origin of all the trouble.
The legislature rushing through a $1B package on
the last day of the session without much discussion with the public to "sell" Utahns on the idea. That puts SEG in a bind. That puts the city in a bind. That will soon put UDOT in a bind.
For comparison, the L.A. Live project took a few years. From what I can tell, the concept started getting kicked around as early as late 1999. The stakeholder meetings took pretty much all of 2000 and half of 2001. And the approval from the city wasn't until mid-to-late 2001.
On our timeline, that would mean the City Council giving final buy-off by 2026. I suppose there's no reason it
needs to go that slowly, but I grow suspicious when a developer rushes the planning (even if it's not their fault).
The NHL team can play without an entertainment complex. Even with speedy approval, it took L.A. Live from 2001 to 2005 before the first phases of it opened. So we may be looking at 2028-2029 before there is a functional entertainment district (the first block). Even on an accelerated timetable.
I wish everyone (especially Utah's Capitol Hill) could take a deep breath, slow down a little bit, and get this right. If you're saying they've already met with and got approval from *all* the stakeholders, I'm skeptical. I'm doubtful that everyone would be on-board already, especially at the early stage of draft.