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Originally Posted by le calmar
Just a note though, a city is generally considered "founded" when it becomes a permanent settlement. That happened in the 1630's in both cities. Otherwise we could say Toronto was founded in 1720 and Kingston in 1673 due to the temporary and/or military presence at the time, which is not accurate.
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For Saint John it is really 1783 when a couple thousand Loyalists arrived and created new townsites. There were Europeans living permanently in the area since the 1600's but that's true all around the region in desirable coastal areas around rivers/harbours and farmland. There were lots of small Acadian villages.
For St. John's there's less of a clear founding date but it also wasn't really a city in the 1700's and earlier. Some forms of development would have happened first in St. John's (streets and buildings being used into the future), others in Saint John. The Loyalists were advanced, had a bunch of expectations around how they wanted things to be run, and developed NB quickly.