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rgarri4 · #41 Posted **Sep 3, 2020, 11:54 PM**

Lol lately Toronto has 3 types of skyscraper proposals.
1. Bland but tall filler
2. Aqua copy cats
3. Buildings with very strange design choices.
Only my opinion

Maldive · #42 Posted **Sep 4, 2020, 12:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by Jaborandi

Perhaps a new weather beacon for Toronto?

I wondered if it might be the world's first urban peregrine falcon hotel. Or maybe a holding cell for ssp trolls.

Oscar Flores

yaletown_fella · #43 Posted **Sep 6, 2020, 2:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by rgarri4

Lol lately Toronto has 3 types of skyscraper proposals.
1. Bland but tall filler
2. Aqua copy cats
3. Buildings with very strange design choices.
Only my opinion

Toronto does midrises better.

Gresto · #44 Posted **Jun 10, 2024, 8:36 PM**

At UrbanToronto, there are rumours a-rumbling about this one possibly moving forward.

Nouvellecosse · #45 Posted **Jun 10, 2024, 8:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Gresto

At UrbanToronto, there are rumours a-rumbling about this one possibly moving forward.

That's surprising since I thought the consensus was that no new major office projects would be starting for a few years. Mainly since there was plenty of supply from the ones started pre-covid combined with lower demand from a sluggish economy and greater rates of WFH.

Gresto · #46 Posted **Jun 10, 2024, 10:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

That's surprising since I thought the consensus was that no new major office projects would be starting for a few years. Mainly since there was plenty of supply from the ones started pre-covid combined with lower demand from a sluggish economy and greater rates of WFH.

Yes, that is my understanding as well, Nouvelle. It is a bit mystifying.

Dale · #47 Posted **Jun 10, 2024, 11:07 PM**

Maybe they have a large leasee on the hooks ?

Innsertnamehere · #48 Posted **Jun 11, 2024, 12:49 PM**

The only way I see it happening is if they suddenly landed a mega tenant willing to take most of the building.

Nouvellecosse · #49 Posted **Jun 11, 2024, 3:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by GeneralLeeTPHLS

What...the hell? I don't get why they chose such a strange shape for the top. It looks like a TV on stilts with a little antennae sticking out...you may well give it rabbit ears, not a lone one! I'd really prefer just concrete sticking out at the top at this point...after the little concrete walls as the crown.

Other than that....the podium seems iffy. The heritage structure looking a lot more surrounded now....not a fan of that. It could really use some simplifying...those concrete ladders look good though.

Yeah those are my main concerns with it also, although the design is growing on me. The box impaled on that 60s era tripod stick reminds me of some kind of space probe or something. That midrise podium behind the Harbour Commission seems unnecessary though and crowds the site. Some of the issue there is just that it's not a huge footprint for such a large office tower.

WhipperSnapper · #50 Posted **Jun 11, 2024, 4:15 PM**

The tower is great compared to what is typical in Toronto. The podium behind the Harbour Commission Building should be axed. The rest is fine. Ideally, there should not be a tower squeezed onto the property but, this is Toronto.

The chance of a mega tenant signing a long term lease at rates that make this project feasible in this market and in Canada is not going to happen. Everyone knows the one mega tenant that chose building world class facilities to fix their reputation as a farm for other mega tenants instead of clearing house and rebuilding the dysfunctional core group is regretting their decision. They may not even use the space in CIBC Square 2