Manitoba Highways - Page 123

pspeid · #**2441** Posted **May 17, 2024, 4:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Carboy15

Well, most roads in Manitoba are in better shape than in Winnipeg. Hwy 1 in Brandon is horrible (I remember 2022 when it was all potholes in the spring). Last time I was in Brandon I don't remember the road conditions, and I heard they were supposed to resurface it.

Hwy 1 in Brandon has been resurfaced. Great job IMO, nice and smooth!

Carboy15 · #**2442** Posted **May 17, 2024, 5:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by pspeid

Hwy 1 in Brandon has been resurfaced. Great job IMO, nice and smooth!

Great to hear.

WildCake · #**2443** Posted **May 17, 2024, 7:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

I heard PTH 1E twinning is very expensive (Lol I know). They are still trying to identify which route to take. The cost number starts with a B.

What is your source? That seems so farfetched.

The first phase of the Ontario side twinning is 6 km, and news sources stated the cost of 32 million dollars. The Ontario.ca website has a range of 15-50 million

https://files.ontario.ca/mto-norther...2023-01-10.pdf

The Manitoba side is ~16 km. Even if the geography is more challenging than the Ontario side, with the 2-3 overpass/interchange structures, the dollar value should not start with a B.

optimusREIM · #**2444** Posted **May 17, 2024, 8:59 PM**

Manitoba economics will apply, meaning that you add 100-200% off the top to account for corruption and bribes, just the cost of doing business. Then you have to account for the quasi monopolies on construction of this type and materials supply, and a project that should cost 100m ends up at 500m and up

anthonyk · #**2445** Posted **May 17, 2024, 9:16 PM**

There's no way this should cost $58+ million per kilometer. We are not building tunnels through the rockies here.

bomberjet · #**2446** Posted **Jun 3, 2024, 4:33 PM**

Can't remember if this is what spurred the conversation re: condition of PTH 75.
https://www.merx4.merx.com/mbgov/sol...63402&origin=2

But re-construction of the SB lanes from Morris through Ste. Jean Baptiste is out for tender.

Biff · #**2447** Posted **Jun 3, 2024, 4:46 PM**

The bridge over the Red at St Agathe (305) closes this week as well for projects in the area (Approx $40m)

FactaNV · #**2448** Posted **Jun 3, 2024, 4:54 PM**

I was in Minnesota for the weekend and we shook it up and took 59 home...northbound 59 just across the border is immaculate for a long way. I was pleasantly surprised that a Canadian highway was better than the American counterpart. Also, I29 N of Grand Forks is a bloody disgrace. Insane that an interstate is so rough.

wags_in_the_peg · #**2449** Posted **Jun 3, 2024, 5:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by FactaNV

I was in Minnesota for the weekend and we shook it up and took 59 home...northbound 59 just across the border is immaculate for a long way. I was pleasantly surprised that a Canadian highway was better than the American counterpart. Also, I29 N of Grand Forks is a bloody disgrace. Insane that an interstate is so rough.

agreed on I29 to GF being rough, i was very shocked. In saying that the 75 in in canada was downright scary at time with the chunks concrete missing

FactaNV · #**2450** Posted **Jun 3, 2024, 5:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by wags_in_the_peg

agreed on I29 to GF being rough, i was very shocked. In saying that the 75 in in canada was downright scary at time with the chunks concrete missing

Ive avoided 75 like the plague since COVID. The maintenance issues are part of that calculation haha.

Carboy15 · #**2451** Posted **Jun 4, 2024, 8:00 AM**

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Ive avoided 75 like the plague since COVID. The maintenance issues are part of that calculation haha.

Hwy 75 in general is in dire straits, considering it's a main highway. It probably is also in bad shape due to the river flooding. I'm hoping all of 75 gets repaved before 2030.

Ozabald · #**2452** Posted **Jun 4, 2024, 3:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by FactaNV

I was in Minnesota for the weekend and we shook it up and took 59 home...northbound 59 just across the border is immaculate for a long way. I was pleasantly surprised that a Canadian highway was better than the American counterpart. Also, I29 N of Grand Forks is a bloody disgrace. Insane that an interstate is so rough.

Substitute Manitoba for Canadian.

In other provinces, it's not uncommon for the provincial highway to be as good or even in better shape than its US highway counterpart. As an example, US-1 to Calais, ME is a winding 2-lane highway (though in good shape) with lots of commercial and private driveways; intersections. Cross over into St. Stephen, NB and once cleared customs, a driver enjoys a 4-lane fully divided control access highway with 110 km/h speed limit on NB-1 for the entirety of its length (240km).

NB-95 and I-95 in ME are comparable; as are BC-99 and I-5 in WA (though the median is much narrower on BC-99 with a cable barrier in place). As well, the highways around Niagara are better on the Ontario side vs. New York; same with Ontario and Michigan. There's no comparison between ON-401 through Windsor vs. I-75 in Detroit.

Quebec's highway were similar to Manitoba's vs. its American neighbours. Quebec is spending big $$$ on its highways. Once A-35 is finished, the drive north will be just as good as I-89 in Vermont. A-15 and A-55 are comparable to I-87 and I-91 respectively. Haven't driven Alberta and SK highways near the border, so can't comment.

Glenn99 · #**2453** Posted **Jun 9, 2024, 12:28 AM**

Just returned from the US and 75 northbound is pretty good. Southbound north of Morris is under construction for most of the distance. South of Morris pretty bad and need work. I-29 north of Grand Forks has some pretty bad sections southbound as well.

Carboy15 · #**2454** Posted **Jun 9, 2024, 4:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by Glenn99

Just returned from the US and 75 northbound is pretty good. Southbound north of Morris is under construction for most of the distance. South of Morris pretty bad and need work. I-29 north of Grand Forks has some pretty bad sections southbound as well.

I think pieces of the road were missing, so it looks like they're now cementing over that on I-29

wags_in_the_peg · #**2455** Posted **Jun 10, 2024, 1:23 PM**

it's been a few years since I drove #1 Wpg - whiteshell but did this weekend and very impressed, smooth cruising the whole way!

Carboy15 · #**2456** Posted **Jun 20, 2024, 5:38 AM**

Hey guys, I heard something that there will be a future extension of Interstate 27 through Western North Dakota and Eastern Montana. It will run along the Theodore Roosevelt Expy and join Hwy 6 is Saskatchewan. it will go through Williston ND, Belfield, etc.

Well, this may not affect us too much as it connects to Saskatchewan, but if this goes into fruition, I would love to see an Interstate 98. Interstate 98 should start at Williston and follow US Route 2 for most of its length. The Eastern Terminus should be at Sault Ste Marie, Michigan.

That would be great for enhancing cross country travel for Canadians, like proposed I-92 in Maine. It would take away some need for twinning or converting Hwy 17 in Northern Ontario to freeway. Then only Hwy 17 from Sault Ste Marie, Ontario to Arnprior would really need to be a freeway.

Dengler Avenue · #**2457** Posted **Jul 5, 2024, 4:10 PM**

This was in Kenora yesterday: https://www.ckdr.net/2024/07/04/82384/#
Did anyone happen to be in Kenora and check it out?

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That would be great for enhancing cross country travel for Canadians, like proposed I-92 in Maine. It would take away some need for twinning or converting Hwy 17 in Northern Ontario to freeway. Then only Hwy 17 from Sault Ste Marie, Ontario to Arnprior would really need to be a freeway.

It still doesn't hurt to have our own cross-country freeway.
Along Ottawa River, Ontario has its own freeway (ON-417), and Quebec has constructed and maybe started to twin its own QC-A50 on the other side of the river.

BlackDog204 · #**2458** Posted **Jul 5, 2024, 4:17 PM**

Since the city and province can't really afford to build many overpass, I would love to see the implementation of large roundabouts like what they are doing at highway Interchange in Alberta.

If only we could turn back the clock, and make Sterling Lyon and Kenaston a large roundabout. Right now I would be in favor of constructing a large roundabout at Kenaston and McGillivray. The traffic is horrendous.

Are they not building a roundabout at the Trans-Canada and #16, west of Portage?

bomberjet · #**2459** Posted **Jul 5, 2024, 4:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

This was in Kenora yesterday: https://www.ckdr.net/2024/07/04/82384/#
Did anyone happen to be in Kenora and check it out?

It still doesn't hurt to have our own cross-country freeway.
Along Ottawa River, Ontario has its own freeway (ON-417), and Quebec has constructed and maybe started to twin its own QC-A50 on the other side of the river.

Im not following.. The link is for hwy 17 twinning and bridges/tunnels for animals. Is there something else about a different project that would eliminate the need for twinning 17?

bomberjet · #**2460** Posted **Jul 5, 2024, 4:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Since the city and province can't really afford to build many overpass, I would love to see the implementation of large roundabouts like what they are doing at highway Interchange in Alberta.

If only we could turn back the clock, and make Sterling Lyon and Kenaston a large roundabout. Right now I would be in favor of constructing a large roundabout at Kenaston and McGillivray. The traffic is horrendous.

Are they not building a roundabout at the Trans-Canada and #16, west of Portage?

No it was cancelled because it's a dumb idea.