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Originally Posted by OTSkyline
True although Laval can be really considered to be part of Montreal. But I guess in that same vein so could Gatineau (with Ottawa) haha
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Depending on who you talk to and in which context, we're anywhere from the third to the fifth city in Quebec.
We're the third metro since Ottawa-Gatineau (Quebec part) actually exists and has separate statistics for it.
We're also arguably more stand-alone from Ottawa than Laval is from Montreal.
On the other hand we're sometimes less in the consciousness than other smaller cities like Trois-Rivières and even Sherbrooke because we're a bit outside of "mainline" Quebec and of course associated with being in Ottawa's orbit.
Though this has IMO changed a great deal in recent years and I find Gatineau is way more on the radar in Quebec overall than it used to be - in the media and popular culture for example.
If you pay attention to the Quebec media, Gatineau is always there in terms of ads for tours and is often in the "big three"
of tour stops with Montreal and Quebec City as the only others.
Note that as a potential francophone market, Gatineau + Ottawa is close to twice the size of the next-largest, which is Sherbrooke.
There are something like 150,000 francophones in Ottawa and Eastern Ontario (though it's true lots of them are not tuned into francophone culture) so when you add the 300,000+ on the Gatineau side it's still a large cultural market for stuff in French.