Quebec, the French Language, and Quebecois Identity

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

What's "folklore Québécois"? Is Robert Charlebois or Diane Tell "folklore Québécois"?

Think La Bolduc and work you way forward from there.

[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Think La Bolduc and work you way forward from there.

Why call it "folklore"? No one would call a mainstream European singer from the 1930s "folklore".

The question is just weird, like going into a UK thread and asking "Is folklore British still popular among the British youth?"

[Xelebes]

I don't think turluttage qualifies as Quebecois folk. The start of Quebec folk is with Joseph Conrad who, while promoting Madame Bolduc at the start of her career, still strongly considered what he was doing was folk music. Turluttage was considered in the same league as cabaret, country (Wilf Carter, Hank Snow), jazz (Jelly Roll Morton, Graydon Tipp) and ragtime (Willie Epstein) in Canada, emerging forms of pop music.

[harls]

All of you know Acajack is on vacation right now, itching to reply to all of this.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

Why call it "folklore"? No one would call a mainstream European singer from the 1930s "folklore".

The question is just weird, like going into a UK thread and asking "Is folklore British still popular among the British youth?"

British folk music would be a bit broad - I think you'd have to break it down into English, Scottish, Welsh, and Irish folk (at least).

[urbandreamer]

The Chieftains vs Simon Berry?

It never dawned on me what Bonjour Hi meant. I thought it was just a polite way of saying hello. You can tell how antisocial I am ha. (I walked around Montreal listening to my Walkman in the early 2000s, kind of like today's kids wearing their airpods everywhere. Good tip to just ignore the fact I don't remember any French at all nowadays. In high school, I had the top score in 9th & 10th grade before abruptly dropping it for German, which was a huge mistake.)

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

What's "folklore Québécois"? Is Robert Charlebois or Diane Tell "folklore Québécois"?

I found this one just for you.

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[kwoldtimer]

How about this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NLBZrbi9Ss

[harls]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

How about this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NLBZrbi9Ss

Our high school band would play this as a warm up -

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[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

I found this one just for you.

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This would never be called "folklore" in French.

This is "folklore":

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Or this:

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This is a very minor genre, except perhaps in some regions like Brittany.

[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

I found this one just for you.

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By the way, this you posted sounds very much like 1950s Parisian cabaret songs. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy drew his inspiration from there (as this was not a sort of music traditional to French Canada).

Patachou, for example, was a popular singer from the 1950s cabaret scene, same style of music as in your video:

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There's one of her songs that has almost exactly the same tune as in your Québécois song, but I can't put a finger on it right now.

My favorite song by Patachou is this one (featuring Georges Brassens too), which is a real gem. A very short song, but everything is perfect, music and lyrics (which are so not French with their cute positivity). This is the sort of music that all the Québécois singers from the 1960s and 1970s listened to in their youth.

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[Doady]

The Quebec subforum is right here:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=34

[mousquet]

Montréal making use of the Olympic flame crossing France to advertise tourism over their place.

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Guess it's an option for those willing to get away from the huge Olympic crowds this summer.
A lot of locals in Paris will be away, that's for sure.

[P'tit Renard]

Team Trudeau continues to jump the shark, by burning their last bastions of national support in Quebec?

Comité sur les langues officielles: «Scusez-moi, là, mais vous êtes un plein de m****», lance un libéral à un témoin
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/0...s-un-plein-dm-lance-un-liberal-en-comite

[New Brisavoine]

The view of North America by the Anglophones. Precious!

[kwoldtimer]

Not sure what that map is supposed to be showing.

[lio45]

For the record, my choice of 4th turned out to be German. Neither Arab nor Russian were serious candidates.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Not sure what that map is supposed to be showing.

I’m sure you’ll get it if you think about it for a few seconds…

Quebec is large enough on that map to have been purple rather than red.

(On the other hand, no subnational jurisdictions exist on it, so it’s defensible as is. Actually if you zoom on Flanders and the German part of Switzerland, it’s coherent with all of Canada being red.)

[harls]

According to the language in this thread, seems to be right.

[MolsonExport]

The View of Anglophones by NB: