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Old Posted May 25, 2024, 12:20 PM
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It's one of many necessary steps to get enough supply built to meet demand. Even if we weren't in a housing crisis though there's no great need to limit density in neighbourhood where people want to live. The best cities in the world are filled with apartment buildings and higher density than SFHs.
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Old Posted May 25, 2024, 1:51 PM
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It's one of many necessary steps to get enough supply built to meet demand. Even if we weren't in a housing crisis though there's no great need to limit density in neighbourhood where people want to live. The best cities in the world are filled with apartment buildings and higher density than SFHs.
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Old Posted May 25, 2024, 11:03 PM
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And western Europe...
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Old Posted May 26, 2024, 1:14 AM
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I don't know a single person under the age of 35 who is opposed to this council ruling... What does that tell you? You already got your home. Nobody is going to force you to turn it into a 4plex. Maybe we should be enacting policies that will allow my generation even a sliver of the privilege you've been afforded in life.
On Thursday, several councillors noted the stark generational divide between the pro-HAF and anti-HAF speakers. The divide already existed, but homeowners were insulated from it.

I don't expect HAF will be some kind of silver bullet, but I now feel that young people/renters (who are second-class citizens in Canada) can actually move the needle in the right direction.
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Old Posted May 26, 2024, 1:25 AM
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None of this will suddenly result in $150,000 homes suddenly being built.
And further restricting density will? People like you will take a dump on the implementation of common sense half-measures that at least have the POTENTIAL of helping solve the crisis, but provide no alternative.

If we're not increasing density in the regional center, what do you propose?

The HRM is already an immensely sprawling urban/suburban area relative to its population size.

It's straining our public transit system. Traffic gets perceptibly worse almost every week. We can barely repair all of the roads in time for them to get destroyed by another freeze/thaw cycle. The list just goes on.

If we're not increasing density, where do you propose all these new single-family detached home neighborhoods go? And whose tax dollars will fund them? The suburbs are already MASSIVELY subsidized by everybody who lives in the denser city center.
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Old Posted May 26, 2024, 1:31 AM
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On Thursday, several councillors noted the stark generational divide between the pro-HAF and anti-HAF speakers. The divide already existed, but homeowners were insulated from it.

I don't expect HAF will be some kind of silver bullet, but I now feel that young people/renters (who are second-class citizens in Canada) can actually move the needle in the right direction.
Well said. Honestly, this is the first time in my life (as a young working adult) that I have felt like the government (municipal, provincial, or federal) has prioritized my needs over the wants/whims of wealthy/comfortable homeowners who are richer than me and were essentially given every advantage in life (relatively speaking).

It was the first time I've felt a spark of hope about the future in many years.

Will I ever own a detached single family home with a big yard like every aspect of society has programmed me to believe I should want/need? Maybe not. But is there at least a future where the needs of the young struggling working class are not completely disregarded? Maybe.
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Old Posted May 26, 2024, 2:15 PM
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If we're not increasing density, where do you propose all these new single-family detached home neighborhoods go? And whose tax dollars will fund them? The suburbs are already MASSIVELY subsidized by everybody who lives in the denser city center.
I live in the mid-suburbs... Lawrencetown area to be precise. I just moved here, and one of the things that surprised me was how in demand my smaller house in Cole Harbour was for young families.

We made the decision to move out here for two reasons:
- I retired, so I wanted to slow down (even though for the next couple of years I need to take my kids into town for school, for a reasons)
- my partners parents are going into a basement suite we are building

The first thing I learned is that people out here don't realize:
- how privileged they are... they complain about everything, especially roads
- how subsidized they are; they don't seem to have any idea how much those roads cost, who pays for them, and why HRM was actually amalgamated (there was reason why the province put pressure on).

I am absolutely in favor of letting people who live in the higher density cores to decide how they want those cores to develop, and spend money to make it so. Which means less cars, more transit, and more active transportation.

By the way, I went down town last night for supper at Queens Marque. Parked in Purdies Wharf for $9, five minute walk, no real traffic problems even in the construction zone, nice patio, and people watching... all in all, a pleasant experience. As others have said, if it isn't for you, go to Dartmouth Crossing. There are three mirror chains right next to each other with great big parking lots, have at it.
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Old Posted May 26, 2024, 2:27 PM
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I live in the mid-suburbs... Lawrencetown area to be precise. I just moved here, and one of the things that surprised me was how in demand my smaller house in Cole Harbour was for young families.

We made the decision to move out here for two reasons:
- I retired, so I wanted to slow down (even though for the next couple of years I need to take my kids into town for school, for a reasons)
- my partners parents are going into a basement suite we are building

The first thing I learned is that people out here don't realize:
- how privileged they are... they complain about everything, especially roads
- how subsidized they are; they don't seem to have any idea how much those roads cost, who pays for them, and why HRM was actually amalgamated (there was reason why the province put pressure on).

I am absolutely in favor of letting people who live in the higher density cores to decide how they want those cores to develop, and spend money to make it so. Which means less cars, more transit, and more active transportation.

By the way, I went down town last night for supper at Queens Marque. Parked in Purdies Wharf for $9, five minute walk, no real traffic problems even in the construction zone, nice patio, and people watching... all in all, a pleasant experience. As others have said, if it isn't for you, go to Dartmouth Crossing. There are three mirror chains right next to each other with great big parking lots, have at it.
I still live in Cole Harbour but frequent downtown often. I will park my car in DT Dartmouth and take the Ferry to Halifax.Very easy and only too happy to experience this ever changing -for the better -City. I will also walk around DT Halifax for exercise.
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Old Posted May 29, 2024, 10:56 PM
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The former Needs Convenience at 6130 Chebucto Road (at Windsor) is planned to become a 7-storey, 71-unit residential building.
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Old Posted May 29, 2024, 11:57 PM
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The former Needs Convenience at 6130 Chebucto Road (at Windsor) is planned to become a 7-storey, 71-unit residential building.
Any notes on that if they are planning to redo the intersection as well?
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Old Posted May 30, 2024, 2:42 AM
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620 Portland St

According to viewpoint the old Steak and Stein property on Portland St has finally sold. If will be interesting to see if it becomes part of Steele Auto Group or is demolished and completely redeveloped..
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Old Posted May 30, 2024, 1:47 PM
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Any notes on that if they are planning to redo the intersection as well?
Unfortunately no. It's Very much a missed opportunity by the city to pick up that lot and fix that cursed intersection. Its fate is now sealed for the next 50 years if a building is going up there.
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Old Posted May 30, 2024, 9:23 PM
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Old Posted May 30, 2024, 10:28 PM
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Building permit issued this week for 10 floors | 128 Units | Mixed Use | $22.7M | 10 Edward Street, Dartmouth | Unknown.

Currently home to a gravel parking lot. Grade Alteration Permit is already issued so construction could start at anytime.

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Old Posted Jun 1, 2024, 1:40 PM
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Councillor Mason has a couple of paragraphs on the 1766 and 1816 Robie Street projects. They are owned by J2K Properties and will be phased with 1816 starting excavation now.

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Old Posted Jun 1, 2024, 2:11 PM
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Building permit issued this week for 10 floors | 128 Units | Mixed Use | $22.7M | 10 Edward Street, Dartmouth | Unknown.

Currently home to a gravel parking lot. Grade Alteration Permit is already issued so construction could start at anytime.
Seems odd that the address is Edward st, which is just a one-way lane.
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Old Posted Jun 1, 2024, 2:43 PM
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^Where it is mixed-use this actually makes sense. The building address is always tied to the residential units. The commercial units will be along Ochterlonely. This leaves the residential entrance and parkade entrance to be along Edward Street.

The residential entrance of mixed-use buildings is usually associated with the side street. For example;

- The Elevation on Robie is at 5858 Macara (not Robie).
- NRTH Condos is at 5511 Bilby (not Gottingen).
- Boa Vista is at 20 Dawson (not Wyse).
- 169 Wyse is at 19 Pelzant (not Wyse).
- 5515 Cogswell is at 5515 Cogswell (not Gottingen).
- The Mills is at 1470 Queen (not Spring Garden).

10 Edward Street is just an extreme example where the lot is narrow and the side street acts a laneway. I just hope they have an agreement with HRM to improve the street with curb and sidewalk along the property edge.
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Old Posted Jun 2, 2024, 12:46 AM
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^Where it is mixed-use this actually makes sense. The building address is always tied to the residential units. The commercial units will be along Ochterlonely. This leaves the residential entrance and parkade entrance to be along Edward Street.

The residential entrance of mixed-use buildings is usually associated with the side street. For example;

- The Elevation on Robie is at 5858 Macara (not Robie).
- NRTH Condos is at 5511 Bilby (not Gottingen).
- Boa Vista is at 20 Dawson (not Wyse).
- 169 Wyse is at 19 Pelzant (not Wyse).
- 5515 Cogswell is at 5515 Cogswell (not Gottingen).
- The Mills is at 1470 Queen (not Spring Garden).

10 Edward Street is just an extreme example where the lot is narrow and the side street acts a laneway. I just hope they have an agreement with HRM to improve the street with curb and sidewalk along the property edge.
Thanks, do you know if it is just the right parking lot, or both lots?
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Old Posted Jun 2, 2024, 1:42 PM
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^Property mapping shows the two parking lots are on a single ~0.4 acre lot.
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Old Posted Jun 2, 2024, 2:45 PM
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NEW PROJECT! --- 229 PLEASANT STREET, DARTMOUTH - 7 FLOORS - 105 UNITS. This is at land-use approval (DOP) stage and is located next to Pleasant Street Irving.

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