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Old Posted May 22, 2024, 8:46 AM
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I've been eyeballing passenger volumes on the American flights across the prairies (except Calgary) and have noticed that since the Easter Long Weekend there seems to be significantly more traffic flowing south to north vs north to south. Just curious to know if these months are considered as slow season travel for Canadians heading south, because it sure looks that way across the Prairies at the moment.
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Old Posted May 22, 2024, 12:13 PM
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I've been eyeballing passenger volumes on the American flights across the prairies (except Calgary) and have noticed that since the Easter Long Weekend there seems to be significantly more traffic flowing south to north vs north to south. Just curious to know if these months are considered as slow season travel for Canadians heading south, because it sure looks that way across the Prairies at the moment.
We don't go South in the summer and Americans love hunting and fishing here when it's nice.
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Old Posted May 22, 2024, 12:29 PM
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I am not familiar with FLL at all, but it seems like it's essentially a secondary airport to Miami, being only half an hour from the city centre proper. So in essence, YWG kind of have seasonal flights to Miami now
FLL is the airport of choice for cruise traffic.
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Old Posted May 22, 2024, 2:35 PM
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I've been eyeballing passenger volumes on the American flights across the prairies (except Calgary) and have noticed that since the Easter Long Weekend there seems to be significantly more traffic flowing south to north vs north to south. Just curious to know if these months are considered as slow season travel for Canadians heading south, because it sure looks that way across the Prairies at the moment.
fishing lodges nodoubt but theres also allot that own cabins
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Old Posted May 22, 2024, 3:16 PM
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Just at the airport, gotta love the all black, Darth Vaderish autonomous wheelchairs. It is the first time I have seen them. I am just sitting here and it drives by with no occupant. Just going to home base I guess.
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Old Posted May 23, 2024, 8:04 AM
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UAs DEN and ORD flights resume today. They had been doing test flights between the cites for the past three days.
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Old Posted May 23, 2024, 12:42 PM
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WJ announces direct to Cabo, Mexico and FT Lauderdale Florida starting Nov, 1 day week
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Old Posted May 25, 2024, 3:21 AM
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From what I can tell, it looks as though the new PD YWG-YOW flights are doing well, selling out most of the time. If this is the case, I anticipate a second daily Ottawa flight to materialise before the end of the year.
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Old Posted May 25, 2024, 4:12 AM
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^Will need to consider that for the next Montreal trip.
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Old Posted May 25, 2024, 7:10 AM
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I know they will be adding YHU in 2025, and I'm hoping YUL before that.
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Old Posted May 27, 2024, 8:55 PM
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For interests sake, here are some stats from the WS YWG-LGW summer seasonal route in 2016 and 2017:

Month & Year / # of pax / # of flights / # of available seats / LF for Month
May 2016 / 1,692 / 8 / 2,096 / 80.7%
Jun 2016 / 1,966 / 8 / 2,096 / 93.8%
Jul 2016 / 2,487 / 10 / 2,620 / 94.9%
Aug 2016 / 1,761 / 8 / 2,096 / 84.0%
Sep 2016 / 1,844 / 8 / 2,096 / 88.0%
Jun 2017 / 466 / 2 / 524 / 88.9%
Jul 2017 / 2,383 / 10 / 2,620 / 91.0%
Aug 2017 / 2,023 / 8 / 2,096 / 96.5%
Totals / 14,622 / 62 / 16,244 / 90.0%


This helps show the potential for non-stop European service out of YWG, and why the WAA are actively scouting for service to return. As mentioned before, slots are at a premium at the moment, but hopefully that will change over the next few years.
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Old Posted May 28, 2024, 3:38 PM
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For interests sake, here are some stats from the WS YWG-LGW summer seasonal route in 2016 and 2017:

Month & Year / # of pax / # of flights / # of available seats / LF for Month
May 2016 / 1,692 / 8 / 2,096 / 80.7%
Jun 2016 / 1,966 / 8 / 2,096 / 93.8%
Jul 2016 / 2,487 / 10 / 2,620 / 94.9%
Aug 2016 / 1,761 / 8 / 2,096 / 84.0%
Sep 2016 / 1,844 / 8 / 2,096 / 88.0%
Jun 2017 / 466 / 2 / 524 / 88.9%
Jul 2017 / 2,383 / 10 / 2,620 / 91.0%
Aug 2017 / 2,023 / 8 / 2,096 / 96.5%
Totals / 14,622 / 62 / 16,244 / 90.0%


This helps show the potential for non-stop European service out of YWG, and why the WAA are actively scouting for service to return. As mentioned before, slots are at a premium at the moment, but hopefully that will change over the next few years.
LF is only one part of the equation. What were the yields for these flights?
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Old Posted Jun 3, 2024, 6:45 AM
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WestJet's YWG-YUL resumes today after a five(ish) year hiatus.
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Old Posted Jun 3, 2024, 9:57 AM
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Something interesting I noticed. Air Canada flying non-stop between Winnipeg and Regina today on an Airbus, flight AC2071, and it's currently advertised for sale on the AC app and showing up as flights in both YWG and YQR airport websites.

I wonder if this is a trial run for gradually re-introducing flights between Western Canadian cities?
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2024, 7:35 PM
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WS just announced a sizeable expanded winter schedule for YEG. Out of that, YWG-YEG goes to 16 flights per week, up from 6 weekly flights last winter (the largest domestic expansion on that newly announced schedule).

With YEG being a focus city for WS, hopefully that gives way for a similar announcement for YWG this winter as well, also being a focus city for WS.
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2024, 8:15 PM
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It seems like, from my layman airline POV, that all the routes between major Canadian cities are returning to higher frequencies. Which is great because the 2 places I fly most are Montreal and Edmonton!
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2024, 8:39 PM
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It is good to see the gradual return of higher domestic scheduling frequencies for sure. Would be nice to see AC return with more interconnectivity between Western Canadian cities as well, but I'm not holding my breath on that happening for quite some time yet.
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2024, 8:47 PM
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Now we just need a Euro flight! I always thought (only semi jokingly) that CRL would be the perfect spot. Big enough runway for a 787-9, tons of destinations, lower volume than the big airports and it's a main hub for Ryanair, which cheapass Winnipeggers would love for their connections on holiday haha.
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Old Posted Jun 5, 2024, 1:43 AM
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March 2024 domestic traffic was about 55,000 passengers below March 2019.

10x weekly increase to YEG, assuming 80% load and 737–800, would add about 13,400 passengers of monthly traffic.

The Porter YOW flight would add about 6500 passengers monthly vs last winter.

The other YUL and YOW additions would add roughly 20,000, as well.

Depending on whether that shifts any capacity away from YYC or YYZ, or possibly if there is any incremental growth on those routes, that should put domestic traffic at basically fully recovered.

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Old Posted Jun 5, 2024, 3:25 AM
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I've heard that this will be a stabilising year to near 2019 passenger numbers, and then the next few years afterwards will see some pretty good growth again. Hopefully that comes to fruition.
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