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Old Posted May 13, 2024, 3:29 PM
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Absolutely. Unless this guy time-travelled back to 1946, it is very hard to take the suggestion that Cleveland, Detroit, etc., are in better shape, downtown-wise, than the Canadian cities mentioned. Quite the opposite, in every single way possible. I've been to Detroit and Cleveland recently, and their downtowns are still coming out of a nadir phase of the likes never experienced by any large Canadian city.
Downtown Cleveland has great bones, I think it's well positioned for a modest rebound which I think has begun with the relocation of Sherwin Williams head office to a new tower. Same thing is going on in Detroit, I just haven't spent as much time there.

But I agree with your point - aside from the typical 'restaurant and nightlife street' you find in many American cities, Downtown Cleveland is dead, particularly outside of working hours. Its open areas (public spaces or surface lots) are borderline windswept, they're so empty. If there isn't a sporting event or a concert going on, it feels a little seedy. Vastly smaller Canadian cities have more vibrant Downtowns.
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