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Old Posted Apr 27, 2024, 6:51 PM
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I dunno if this is important or not, but there are now 4 Sea Cans on 105th Ave, between University District and Concord Piano's lot. Also a Sea Can on Central Blvd near District Northwest's plot.
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Old Posted May 3, 2024, 7:42 PM
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There is some movement on Parcel 1 of Innovation Village. Originally this project was to be completed by the WestStone group, but they sold off the land for this tower. They still own the lots to the west of this project. 63k square feet of medical offices with 461 rental units, will be a good development with proximity to SMH and the new hospital tower.

The new developer is "Appelt Properties."

https://www.surrey.ca/sites/default/files/planning-reports/PLR_7923-0227-00.pdf
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Old Posted May 4, 2024, 3:55 AM
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There is some movement on Parcel 1 of Innovation Village. Originally this project was to be completed by the WestStone group, but they sold off the land for this tower. They still own the lots to the west of this project. 63k square feet of medical offices with 461 rental units, will be a good development with proximity to SMH and the new hospital tower.

The new developer is "Appelt Properties."

https://www.surrey.ca/sites/default/files/planning-reports/PLR_7923-0227-00.pdf
As long as their proposal doesn't involve a public hearing, the shouldn't have any problems
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Old Posted May 8, 2024, 12:52 AM
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https://www.surrey.ca/sites/default/files/planning-reports/PLR_7922-0321-00_0.pdf

Civic District by Wesgroup

Tower heights of 202m, 185m, and 170m. No office space in any of the first 3 phases, and then there will be a standalone 13 storey office building with ~250k sq ft of office space. Grocery store in Phase 1, hotel in Phase 3.
Sales expected to start early 2025, with full completion expected in 2036.
Staff support the proposed 2.1 FAR of commercial and office use.

If this is what a massive developer like Wesgroup can do, I have zero faith in that large development by Oviedo to the east to ever move forward in it's current state. However, a difference may be that Wesgroup paid $110m for their site, while Oviedo bought their property for its commercial purposes before it had much redevelopment potential (I think at least.)
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/13044-10392-king-george-boulevard-oviedo-towers-surrey

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Old Posted May 8, 2024, 3:13 AM
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Old Posted May 8, 2024, 1:04 PM
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Considering how close this is to City Hall and the desire to make the area have more office/ retail space, I would be surprised if this gets approved in its current form.

Unless Surrey isn't serious about building a business area.
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Old Posted May 8, 2024, 6:26 PM
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Considering how close this is to City Hall and the desire to make the area have more office/ retail space, I would be surprised if this gets approved in its current form.

Unless Surrey isn't serious about building a business area.
the project includes a 13 tower office building, a hotel, a 43K sq/ft grocery store, 21k sqft of child care, and another 50K sqft of retail.
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Old Posted May 8, 2024, 6:34 PM
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The site states that the estimated completion is 2036, ending with the office tower… I wonder how the market is expected to shift within that period. My wild guess is it will either be converted into condos like what happened to Parkway across the street, or significantly more office space will be added (hoping for the latter). Nonetheless, given the current demand for housing and how significant this project is, I’m surprised it will take this long.
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Old Posted May 8, 2024, 8:36 PM
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Considering how close this is to City Hall and the desire to make the area have more office/ retail space, I would be surprised if this gets approved in its current form.

Unless Surrey isn't serious about building a business area.
In the report it says staff supports the commercial and office use so I assume it will be approved. Also says they have been working with the urban design team for around a year.


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The site states that the estimated completion is 2036, ending with the office tower… I wonder how the market is expected to shift within that period. My wild guess is it will either be converted into condos like what happened to Parkway across the street, or significantly more office space will be added (hoping for the latter). Nonetheless, given the current demand for housing and how significant this project is, I’m surprised it will take this long.
When you look at who's in charge of the whole Downtown Surrey idea, it is Michael Heeney. In most of his talks he goes on to speak about how the center of the region is shifting towards Surrey Central (based on population proximity), and how people will want to be closer to work.

I do think he underestimates how many young people really want to work in Vancouver and probably won't mind the extra commute. The rationale is that people will eventually want to start having families and they will be forced to move eastwards for affordability reasons. Long gone are the days where executives would travel in from North/West Van, the vast majority of the lower mainland is far too expensive for people that want to start having children.

It doesn't help when the city is planning their own development that would basically double the amount of existing office supply in the downtown core.
Lets also not forget that there are plans to convert all of the space between the mall and KGB into office space. I wonder how many sq feet of office space they plan to have upon full buildout. The peninsula has what, 30M with 27M leased?
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Old Posted May 8, 2024, 10:29 PM
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It doesn't help when the city is planning their own development that would basically double the amount of existing office supply in the downtown core.
Lets also not forget that there are plans to convert all of the space between the mall and KGB into office space. I wonder how many sq feet of office space they plan to have upon full buildout. The peninsula has what, 30M with 27M leased?
Colliers says there's 33.2m sf of offioce space in the Downtown peninsula, with 29.3m sf of that leased, and another 0.2m sf under construction. There's another 8.6m sf in the Broadway Corridor, 7.9m sf of it leased, and another 0.7m sf under construction. (There's even more under construction outside the Metro Core, a lot of it in Oakridge).

Surrey has a total of 6.3m sf of office space built across the city, 6m sf leased, and 0.5m sf under construction, (mostly in City Centre 4).
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Old Posted May 9, 2024, 8:14 AM
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Colliers says there's 33.2m sf of offioce space in the Downtown peninsula, with 29.3m sf of that leased, and another 0.2m sf under construction. There's another 8.6m sf in the Broadway Corridor, 7.9m sf of it leased, and another 0.7m sf under construction. (There's even more under construction outside the Metro Core, a lot of it in Oakridge).

Surrey has a total of 6.3m sf of office space built across the city, 6m sf leased, and 0.5m sf under construction, (mostly in City Centre 4).
I wonder how many square feet of office space they envision the CBD area to have. If this development gets accepted in its current state there will be around 700k with space for 3 more towers. I guess the southern parcels near the mall be main business core, conceptual model showed they wanted around 6 office buildings on the parking lots.

We will see what the office market looks like in around 10 years when Wesgroup is actually planning that office tower.
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Old Posted May 15, 2024, 2:36 AM
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Old Posted May 16, 2024, 7:16 PM
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https://globalnews.ca/news/10495515/surrey-stadium-world-cup/

Saw this on the news a couple days ago. I think that could be a good idea for Surrey. I don't know what team would play out of it. It's too small for the Lions, maybe move Vancouver FC from Langley there.
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Old Posted May 16, 2024, 7:44 PM
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Saw this on the news a couple days ago. I think that could be a good idea for Surrey. I don't know what team would play out of it. It's too small for the Lions, maybe move Vancouver FC from Langley there.
This won't even meet FIFA's standards for a stadium to host games (40k+ capacity required). Makes zero sense using that as a push to build it. Surrey Board of Trade grasping at straws here trying to push this pet project through.
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This won't even meet FIFA's standards for a stadium to host games (40k+ capacity required). Makes zero sense using that as a push to build it. Surrey Board of Trade grasping at straws here trying to push this pet project through.

To be fair they don't seem to be pitching it as a venue to host games: "Huberman said in addition to potentially serving as a practice facility for World Cup teams, the facility could be used for other FIFA-related festival events..."
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Do those other events required a 12k seat stadium? Or is this just another one of Huberman's hot takes like the streetcar?
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Do those other events required a 12k seat stadium? Or is this just another one of Huberman's hot takes like the streetcar?
Absolutely no idea. If it actually is a "pre-fabricated, modular stadium with the capability to be relocated" then it could be worth it. Have it set up in Surrey Central as a practice space for FIFA and then later move it to another location that needs new facilities (Bear Creek Park and over by the Cloverdale casino are two spots that come to mind - I'm sure there are more).
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Old Posted May 17, 2024, 4:32 AM
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This won't even meet FIFA's standards for a stadium to host games (40k+ capacity required). Makes zero sense using that as a push to build it. Surrey Board of Trade grasping at straws here trying to push this pet project through.
They aren't looking to host a FIFA game
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Something happening by the 13380 102A Ave, not sure what that is

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