NEW YORK | 262 Fifth Ave | 860 FT | 56 FLOORS

[streetscaper]

Originally Posted by Crawford

The view is enhanced, obviously. It's a very skinny tower, with not even 10% of the volume of the ESB. It isn't the first nor will it be the last of first of many slivers in that general area.

Just silly NIMBYism, as if we can't build anything in Midtown anymore, not even super skinny slivers, just bc an iconic building was built 100 years ago. If the NIMBYs were around back then, there wouldn't even be an ESB to protect, as ESB replaced the gorgeous original Waldorf Astoria.

You're welcome to the [unpopular but legitimate] subjective opinion that the overall view is enhanced. But the original, stated supposition that it only "somewhat blocks the view or damages the view from the Flatiron of the ESB" is patently false. And this is true no matter what percentage volume of the ESB it is because of a very real physical property of our reality called parallax.

[BuildThemTaller]

My main question is why does the city need to concern itself with ensuring people sitting in that very spot need to see the ESB?

[jbermingham123]

I often wish NYC would adopt a London-like sightline preservation system, in which skyscraper development is permitted pretty much anywhere, but certain views are preserved. London has sightline preservation for St. Paul's, and I think Big Ben/Westminster. No building can be built which blocks the view of those two from certain places (e.g. Hyde Park).

[mrnyc]

Originally Posted by Crawford

The view is enhanced, obviously. It's a very skinny tower, with not even 10% of the volume of the ESB.

o rilly -- as usual clearly you looked that up post your link

[MAC123]

Originally Posted by jbermingham123

I often wish NYC would adopt a London-like sightline preservation system, in which skyscraper development is permitted pretty much anywhere, but certain views are preserved. London has sightline preservation for St. Paul's, and I think Big Ben/Westminster. No building can be built which blocks the view of those two from certain places (e.g. Hyde Park).

Absolutely not

[TREPYE]

Originally Posted by chris08876

Can one of the resident engineers comment whereas to how is it that currentlyu code is permissive of having that big GAPING hole in the middle of an 800-foot tower with basically zero structural redundancy?

Should anything even begin to happen to that eastern wall the hundreds of feet above it could certainly come straight down.

[RobEss]

Originally Posted by TREPYE

Should anything even begin to happen to that eastern wall the hundreds of feet above it could certainly come straight down.

You could say this about any building - damage it, and bad things will happen.

[Charmy2]

Does anybody have a view from the World Trade? I'm curious how it looks looking north from Lower Manhattan

[NYguy]

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-...-the-news-photo/2149453135?adppopup=true

[colemonkee]

If we had a system in place to knight people here in the US, Gary Hershorn would be on the top of my list...

[TREPYE]

Originally Posted by RobEss

You could say this about any building - damage it, and bad things will happen.

Most, if not all buildings, if you lose a wall the structure still stands because there are other columns and walls holding up the structure. Here one wall holds up the east side of the building.... no support columns. Would the west wall be enough to hold it up?

[NewYorkCity76]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024...dos-empire-state-building-housing-crisis

[madrian]

Not sure how I feel about this tower yet, still waiting on the finished look but I must admit it is quite spectacular looking at it from street level. It is so thin and so tall.

[colemonkee]

Is that precast brick or precast tile?

[Busy Bee]

Neither... it's "extruded aluminum".

[streetscaper]

First impression.....A wall of that on Fifth Ave is UGLY

[Busy Bee]

I'm gonna make a prediction that the blocked ESB viewshed paired with the laymen impression of ugliness will make this one of the most hated buildings of the last 50 years.

[NYguy]

StinkyPlum

[NYguy]

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-...-the-news-photo/2152673881?adppopup=true

[ChiND]

It would look far better if they install glass in the exposed area on the east facade than applying that hideous brick on the entire Fifth Avenue side, but for the portholes.


Milan