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Originally Posted by TREPYE
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I think from their point of view, and from mine as well actually, there is a variety. From 35, to 50, to 30, I would say it's a variety. Is there too much blue glass? With the added towers around it, yes. I don't like the massing of 50, but that's another issue.
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Originally Posted by mrnyc
aside from the obvious of getting the yards built out, what i like best is that the casino entrance is so dam classy you can't even tell its a casino.  |
That's my conclusion of the podium as well.
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Originally Posted by DCReid
I don't think the Related design is at fault. But I think the three added boxy towers, although they have been very successful, detract from the overall site. I don't mind the Spiral but the 50 Hudson and 15 Hudson with the Spiral seem to create a boring wall similar to the downtown office boxes that they built along the waterfront in the 60s/70s.
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Unfortunately, the boxy towers are what sell, and part of the reason they are leased out. The City Planning zoning was also specifically aligned for those large floorplate boxes, you would be hard to build anything with floorplates as large in most of Midtown. Even the mall space vacated by Neiman Marcus is now being eaten up by Wells Fargo. It's why Related has more confidence in office over the residential, which hasn't done as well as expected.
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