Downtown Update

[TheRitsman]

Originally Posted by TheRitsman

More properties as part of this land Assembly it seems. Looks like Lamb is trying to do the entire block from Cannon to Vine, bounded by Park at the west: "Also of note in Hamilton, Lamb Development Corp. purchased 53-55 Cannon St W and 108 Park St N - an assembly which totals 0.42 acres - for $4,350,000 or approximately $10,300,000/acre, which is on par for high-density land." From Forge&Foster.

Will be making a land Assembly thread over on Urban Toronto once I get the go ahead from the mods.

Created a thread on Urban Toronto with map, pictures etc: https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/ha...-vine-land-assembly-lamb-dev-corp.37696/

[ScreamingViking]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

He’s building Television City right now and has applications in for his next build on Main St, so he is still doing things. Plus he just threw $10 million down for that property.

Yes, but "completes" is the key thing.

I have more confidence in him than others, though I'm wary. But I once had confidence in Harry, and I also criticized Darko for not doing anything except assemble properties. I ended up being wrong on both counts.

[TheRitsman]

So as there is no more general threads on Urban Toronto for Hamilton as of yet, I figured I'd post this here. I don't know if this was already posted here, but I didn't see it: https://twitter.com/JoeyColeman/status/1752777792024904101?t=BTsk59hftxjQGGTVopq9Yg&s=19

Exciting news for.those of us who like to follow developments from start to finish. This hopefully means that at least in the future all the documents for these developments remain public and accessible so we don't have to ask each other if we still have site plans or architecture docs from 3 years ago.

[Hawrylyshyn]

That's great news!

[Innsertnamehere]

Originally Posted by TheRitsman

So as there is no more general threads on Urban Toronto for Hamilton as of yet, I figured I'd post this here. I don't know if this was already posted here, but I didn't see it: https://twitter.com/JoeyColeman/status/1752777792024904101?t=BTsk59hftxjQGGTVopq9Yg&s=19

Exciting news for.those of us who like to follow developments from start to finish. This hopefully means that at least in the future all the documents for these developments remain public and accessible so we don't have to ask each other if we still have site plans or architecture docs from 3 years ago.

We'll see about records or not. Toronto deletes their applications from their site once completed.

At the very least we should hopefully be able to easily access plans for any application now as soon as it's submitted.

[TheHonestMaple]

Looks like there's an interesting event happening downtown next week at Mills Hardware, featuring Jason Thorne and the well known Jennifer Keesmaat.

https://svn-ap.com/news/magnetic-cities-spotlight-on-hamilton/

SvN Speaks - Magnetic Cities: Spotlight On Hamilton

A Conversation about Complete Communities and Development Potential in Hamilton

With renewed focus on the Hamilton LRT, the unlocking of opportunities for urban densification, and new housing solutions for all, what does Hamilton of the Future look like? What role do developers, The City, and community play? How do we work together to shape the ongoing evolution and growth of the city?

Join us for a panel discussion followed by networking.

Our Moderator
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Our Panelists
Jason Thorne
General Manager of Planning
and Economic Development
City of Hamilton

Jennifer Keesmaat
Founding Partner
Markee Developments

Shonda Wang
Partner
SvN

Sandy McIntosh
Senior Associate
SvN

February 27, 2024
5:30 - 7:30pm
Mills Hardware
95 King Street East
Hamilton, Ontario

[TheRitsman]

Originally Posted by TheHonestMaple

Looks like there's an interesting event happening downtown next week at Mills Hardware, featuring Jason Thorne and the well known Jennifer Keesmaat.

https://svn-ap.com/news/magnetic-cities-spotlight-on-hamilton/

SvN Speaks - Magnetic Cities: Spotlight On Hamilton

A Conversation about Complete Communities and Development Potential in Hamilton

With renewed focus on the Hamilton LRT, the unlocking of opportunities for urban densification, and new housing solutions for all, what does Hamilton of the Future look like? What role do developers, The City, and community play? How do we work together to shape the ongoing evolution and growth of the city?

Join us for a panel discussion followed by networking.

Our Moderator
Jeremiah Shamess
Executive Vice President
Private Capital Investment Group
Colliers

Our Panelists
Jason Thorne
General Manager of Planning
and Economic Development
City of Hamilton

Jennifer Keesmaat
Founding Partner
Markee Developments

Shonda Wang
Partner
SvN

Sandy McIntosh
Senior Associate
SvN

February 27, 2024
5:30 - 7:30pm
Mills Hardware
95 King Street East
Hamilton, Ontario

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[Innsertnamehere]

The latest CoA agenda has not one, but Two new McDonalds locations in the city on the agenda. Is McDs on a major expansion or something?

one location at Upper James and White Church in Mount Hope:



And another at Upper Ottawa and Stone Church, behind the Rexall:

[SteelTown]

If there building a McDonald's at Upper Ottawa and Stone Church then the current McDonald's at Mohawk and Upper Gage days must be counting down.

[Innsertnamehere]

https://www.ontario.ca/page/tracking-housing-supply-progress

Final numbers are in for Ontario's housing target for 2023 - Hamilton hit 120% of their housing target with 4,142 unit completed. The City should be due for a cheque for about $15,000,000 or so as a result.

Comparatively, Burlington unsurprisingly did not hit their target, achieving only 27% of their goal. They will not be getting a cent out of the fund.

Not only did Burlington not achieve their target, but they were the third-worst performing municipality in Ontario behind Halton Hills and New Tecumseth.

[ScreamingViking]

re: McDonald's, I wonder if they're on a re-vamping spree. The one at the Delta just got renovated, and it was looking a bit tired.

This new location may also impact the one at Stone Church and Upper RHVP; it's only a couple of kms west of the existing site.

Maybe McDs sees market growth potential with all the things planned/under construction around the south-east Mountain? (residential and commercial/industrial)

[King&James]

Originally Posted by SteelTown

If there building a McDonald's at Upper Ottawa and Stone Church then the current McDonald's at Mohawk and Upper Gage days must be counting down.

That unit a long time ago was the highest grossing unit in Canada, way before the drive thru and McPizza. I would be surprised to see them pull that location. On the other hand when 1/4 of your immediate market is a landfill site, one has to wonder what the market planners for McDs are thinking, much better to make the jump to Rymal

[urban_planner]

Re:McDonald's
I wonder if it has anything to do with the multitude of Burger King locations that have opened or are going to open.

[BCTed]

A lot of stuff in flight, but it has been a small pause since the last site kicked off. What do you guys think is the next building to break ground in downtown-ish Hamilton?

[TheRitsman]

Originally Posted by BCTed

A lot of stuff in flight, but it has been a small pause since the last site kicked off. What do you guys think is the next building to break ground in downtown-ish Hamilton?

325 James St N. Spring/Summer 2024 is when the Chelsea will be done on Augusta and Core Urban will likely then pivot full-force into this property at Barton/James. High value property being so close to Go, especially with the rumoured 30 minute service on the horizon.

[Innsertnamehere]

I think the next big start will be either Apex or 166 Main (only the first tower). There are a bunch more likely coming in the next 12-24 months as well, but it's tougher to ascertain.

[HamiltonPlanning]

Could see 186 Hunter St E. & 71 Rebecca St starting this year. Not sure what the timeline is for 64 Main St E. but hopefully construction begins within the next year or two.

[King&James]

Agree on 186 Hunter, I think that one has full green light.

I would be a bit surprised on Apex - been knda quiet

[Innsertnamehere]

Unfortunately the city's development website is down, but I don't recall 186 Hunter having it's site plan filed yet.

[johnnyhamont]

Now that the King William towers and McMaster's grad residence are reaching exterior completion simultaneously, how would you rank Hamilton's high-rises architecturally?

My top three:
1. William Thomas
2. Mac grad res
3. Marquee

Honourable mentions
Pigott
King William Urban Rentals
KiWi (if that counts as high rise)

There's a million candidates for dishonourable mentions among the 60s and 70s era towers around town, but among the current generation of newer buildings, I'd rank Platinum, 140 Main W and Walnut as the top tall duds.