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Old Posted Feb 23, 2024, 12:37 PM
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Halifax really needs to be set up better to support cycling. Problem is, it's easy for people to balk against the infrastructure costs when there aren't many people using it. And many people won't use it if it's not there or inadequately built. Catch 22.
Well, 100 years ago the govts of the time did not build roads to encourage vehicle use. People realized they were a solution to a lot of problems and bought vehicles to replace horses and buggies. Only then was adequate street/road infrastructure developed. Cycling is just the opposite. There has never been a critical mass *cough* of cyclists large enough to justify the amount of money HRM is wasting spending on bike lanes and their associated foolishness.

Speaking of which, Wednesday mid-afternoon (so not a particularly busy time of day) I passed 8 vehicles queued up on Wyse Rd waiting to make a right turn onto Boland which were prevented from doing so by Sam Austin's absurd "no right on red" rules for the ghost cyclists who allegedly ride there. It was ridiculous since there was nothing that would have prevented them from making that turn safely both for them and anyone else. HRM doing its part for climate change I guess.
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2024, 2:31 PM
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Well, 100 years ago the govts of the time did not build roads to encourage vehicle use. People realized they were a solution to a lot of problems and bought vehicles to replace horses and buggies. Only then was adequate street/road infrastructure developed. Cycling is just the opposite. There has never been a critical mass *cough* of cyclists large enough to justify the amount of money HRM is wasting spending on bike lanes and their associated foolishness.

Speaking of which, Wednesday mid-afternoon (so not a particularly busy time of day) I passed 8 vehicles queued up on Wyse Rd waiting to make a right turn onto Boland which were prevented from doing so by Sam Austin's absurd "no right on red" rules for the ghost cyclists who allegedly ride there. It was ridiculous since there was nothing that would have prevented them from making that turn safely both for them and anyone else. HRM doing its part for climate change I guess.
Road networks evolved from walking paths to wider roads to accommodate horses and wagons. Sidewalks were built so that people could have a place to walk, away from the horse and wagons. Cars came along which were faster and heavier, roads were paved, more sidewalks were built as it was becoming even less safe for pedestrians to mix with moving traffic. A sidewalk network was created, even in areas where there wasn't a lot of pedestrian traffic, so that people could walk from one area to another, safely. It was an evolution in infrastructure.

Now, we are faced with massive population growth, and the threat of climate change. Road networks to facilitate cars grew to be massive and ubiquitous, and sidewalks have followed. More people want to travel independently of public transit, but they don't want to (or can't afford to) drive cars. Bicycles are this neat little piece of technology that have been around forever (even before cars), are compact and light, don't require fuel, and are relatively inexpensive to purchase. Their use has caught on in other cities, and they have become a recognized alternative to the car in urban areas around the world.

Problem is, riding on the street with vehicles that have become larger, faster, heavier, and in many cases more difficult to see a cyclist out of (try driving one of those massive pickups that are all over the place now), has become much more dangerous now. Vehicles now have infotainment units with touch screens that require taking your eyes off the road to operate. Drivers are still using cell phones while driving, despite that it has been made illegal to do so (I see it every day). Vehicles have all kinds of sensors and nanny systems that give a false sense of security, and (IMHO) drivers have become even less attentive and less skillful than ever. People are more stressed and more aggressive than ever, and it shows in their driving.

Cyclists rightfully feel unsafe, and the theory is that if infrastructure is further evolved, more cyclists will come out of hiding and start to use their bikes on the cycling infrastructure, to the benefit of everybody, actually, as it helps reduce pollution (i.e. helps mitigate climate change), plus less motor vehicles on the road would theoretically result in less wear and tear on the street network, and yes, less vehicle traffic, making for a better driving experience for those who still use cars.

As I see it, evolving the infrastructure to include a cycling network, will potentially draw cyclists to that network, and away from more contentious roads. As usage grows, the network will be optimized for efficiency and cost, and mistakes made along the way (like those signals you like to complain about, perhaps) will be worked out of the system and cycling networks will become standardized infrastructure, just like sidewalks have become.

Also, if the network is built, but never used, new cycling infrastructure projects will likely not be created out of a cost/benefit calculation. I suspect, though, that this won't be the case as the infrastructure in places like Montreal, as discussed, is well used, and optimized (like temporary lanes that exist in the nice weather seasons but disappear in winter when they are not used so much).

The past will always be the past, and the present will also become the past, but the future is what we have to anticipate. Cycling growth is something we anticipate, but we don't know how it will go until we actually make an effort to do something about it. We have to try, and then let the cards fall as they may...

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Old Posted Feb 23, 2024, 2:56 PM
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Now, we are faced with massive population growth, and the threat of climate change. Road networks to facilitate cars grew to be massive and ubiquitous, and sidewalks have followed. More people want to travel independently of public transit, but they don't want to (or can't afford to) drive cars. Bicycles are this neat little piece of technology that have been around forever (even before cars), are compact and light, don't require fuel, and are relatively inexpensive to purchase. Their use has caught on in other cities, and they have become a recognized alternative to the car in urban areas around the world.

Problem is, riding on the street with vehicles that have become larger, faster, heavier, and in many cases more difficult to see a cyclist out of (try driving one of those massive pickups that are all over the place now), has become much more dangerous now. Vehicles now have infotainment units with touch screens that require taking your eyes off the road to operate. Drivers are still using cell phones while driving, despite that it has been made illegal to do so (I see it every day). Vehicles have all kinds of sensors and nanny systems that give a false sense of security, and (IMHO) drivers have become even less attentive and less skillful than ever. People are more stressed and more aggressive than ever, and it shows in their driving.

Cyclists rightfully feel unsafe, and the theory is that if infrastructure is further evolved, more cyclists will come out of hiding and start to use their bikes on the cycling infrastructure, to the benefit of everybody, actually, as it helps reduce pollution (i.e. helps mitigate climate change), plus less motor vehicles on the road would theoretically result in less wear and tear on the street network, and yes, less vehicle traffic, making for a better driving experience for those who still use cars.
Exactly. I've said it before on here, but cycling is by far my preferred way to travel short and medium distances, unless I need to haul a lot of stuff. It's almost as fast as driving, generally more pleasant, and is cheaper. It's also far more efficient in every way than driving, which requires A: hauling a few thousand pounds of steel and plastic through the city, even to accomplish the most minor tasks, B: Burning fossil fuels or powering up an electric motor to do so, and C: Finding somewhere to store the thing temporarily near your destination. That's is fine if the entire landscape around you was built with car storage in mind (new suburbs) or if space is just plain abundant (rural areas) but it doesn't work so well in the city.

If I want to visit a friend or go to a doctor's appointment or do some light shopping, a bike is the go-to, pretty much year-round, because it's actually a better way to get around.
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2024, 3:30 PM
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Bike infrastructure, like automobile infrastructure, serves a purpose. There's no getting around the fact that we've developed our communities around the automobile for decades and they're necessary for a lot of people in their day to day lives. That doesn't negate the fact that alternatives exist and for them to be viable, proper infrastructure is necessary. I drive, walk, bike and bus around Halifax but there are some trips I will only make by car because of the lack of cycling infrastructure. It's not a distance or laziness factor for me not biking - I've done century rides on country back roads - its the lack of dedicated space to get away from aggressive drivers that pushes me away from using alternative modes of transport for some trips. If we expect to only support automobile infrastructure, we'll just dig ourselves further into the hole we are trying to get out of.
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2024, 6:07 PM
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Bike infrastructure, like automobile infrastructure, serves a purpose. There's no getting around the fact that we've developed our communities around the automobile for decades and they're necessary for a lot of people in their day to day lives. That doesn't negate the fact that alternatives exist and for them to be viable, proper infrastructure is necessary. I drive, walk, bike and bus around Halifax but there are some trips I will only make by car because of the lack of cycling infrastructure. It's not a distance or laziness factor for me not biking - I've done century rides on country back roads - its the lack of dedicated space to get away from aggressive drivers that pushes me away from using alternative modes of transport for some trips. If we expect to only support automobile infrastructure, we'll just dig ourselves further into the hole we are trying to get out of.
Well said.
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2024, 8:23 PM
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Well said.
Ditto. It’s been years since I biked regularly (I often biked to work in Ottawa, where the infrastructure made it both feasible and relatively safe) and have two gas guzzlers in my driveway. But I absolutely agree that we need to take seriously the importance of active transportation and public transportation alternatives.
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I hope Andy Fillmore runs for Mayor.

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It sure looks like he's running for mayor. There's a good chance I'd vote for him. But don't we already have vacant formerly federal land that sits empty? ie. Shannon Park, the Ralston site, and the former RCMP site. The Bragg land on Robie next door is already an eyesore. We don't need more of that in the same area. The city will have a number of lots to sell on the Cogswell lands soon. And we have the Micmac, Hfx Shopping Centre and Sobeys land in Clayton Park all working on plans to redevelop their sites. ...just thinking out loud.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2024, 4:01 PM
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It sure looks like he's running for mayor. There's a good chance I'd vote for him. But don't we already have vacant formerly federal land that sits empty? ie. Shannon Park, the Ralston site, and the former RCMP site.
Those are all spoken for already.

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The Bragg land on Robie next door is already an eyesore. We don't need more of that in the same area.
It's privately-owned property that they will likely do something with in due course.

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The city will have a number of lots to sell on the Cogswell lands soon.
Those will not be appropriate for any sort of lower-income housing. HRM needs to cash in big on the selling prices to pay for their Cogswell dreams.

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And we have the Micmac, Hfx Shopping Centre and Sobeys land in Clayton Park all working on plans to redevelop their sites. ...just thinking out loud.
Again, all privately-owned and planned for redevelopment eventually. You need to remember there is only so much construction capacity available to do all of these things, and the construction industry is going flat-out as it is. Everything will happen in due course.
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... The Bragg land on Robie next door is already an eyesore. We don't need more of that in the same area. ...
Yes - I think what Andy is making noise about is tied to a comprehensive plan for the lands bounded by Young, Almon, Windsor, and Robie. It's a big parcel of land, with multiple owners, and I suspect having the Canada Post site become developable, like the Bragg-former-Piercy's-former-rail-depot, would be important to minimizing compromises to the planning.

Edited to add: good access to road networks, good access to existing transit routes, proximity to planned transit priority corridors, and proximity to impending active transportation infrastructure makes this chunk more critical than some of the others you mentioned (at least, to me).
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Yes, my point being don't tear anything down until there's an immediate need for it. Also, I'm curious, is there an assumption that housing on this site will be more affordable than elsewhere? In the case of the Cogswell land the city could sell with conditions whereas the city wouldn't own the former post office land. Also, given the development in the north end, it could easily soon become the more desirable place on the peninsula to live (for urban lovers) as opposed to the current downtown. Little doubt that developers are picking up on this and will act accordingly.




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Those are all spoken for already.



It's privately-owned property that they will likely do something with in due course.



Those will not be appropriate for any sort of lower-income housing. HRM needs to cash in big on the selling prices to pay for their Cogswell dreams.



Again, all privately-owned and planned for redevelopment eventually. You need to remember there is only so much construction capacity available to do all of these things, and the construction industry is going flat-out as it is. Everything will happen in due course.
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Is highfield park up next for some ol' gentrification?
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Below is a screenshot taken from the proposed urgent planning changes document showing the Highfield Park area with heights of up to 40 stories.


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Old Posted Mar 8, 2024, 12:11 PM
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Well that's interesting. There are some businesses that have large surface parking lots or take up a lot of area with floor space. Depending upon ownership and business case, they could be good candidates for density-adding. There's a small bus terminal along Highfield that would be of benefit. Perhaps it could be expanded and routes added (someday) to the Shannon Park ferry that is planned.

There are a lot of 3 storey residential units that would be ripe for redevelopment as well at some point, once the housing crisis has become less critical.


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Highfield Park Drive is also supposed to have transit lanes and a protected bikeway in the future, under the Rapid Transit Strategy and Integrated Mobility Plan respectively.
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Another North Dartmouth used car dealership will be closing/relocating. This time it's Capital Auto at 294 WINDMILL ROAD (at Farrell) which is planned to become a 7-floor, 79-unit residential building.
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Development-only Permit submitted for 119 PINECREST DRIVE for a 5-storey residential building. This is the fourth new building for the immediate area. Nice to see the walkshed for Highfield Terminal is seeing good infill projects.

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Great! I was just walking by this while running an errand on Strawberry Hill and was curious, no doubt Dmajackson had the goods

Slowly but surely the Kempt Rd. parking lot will be filled in ... slowly...
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Development-only Permit submitted for 119 PINECREST DRIVE for a 5-storey residential building. This is the fourth new building for the immediate area. Nice to see the walkshed for Highfield Terminal is seeing good infill projects.
Hoping to gradually see some higher infill projects though. Infill is great, but lets dare to take some to the 10s and 12s for a bit.
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