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Old Posted Jan 30, 2024, 9:24 PM
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Noticed the downtown Hudson's Bay has reduced their hours to an 11am opening time and a closing of 6pm, Thurs and Fri only until 7pm. Must be struggling with staff as they can't even align their hours to Pacific Centre.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2024, 11:53 PM
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I don't think Hudson's Bay ever fully restored their hours after Covid, did they?

WRT Montecristo, a coworker said they were turfed out of Oakridge (i.e. not allowed to have a space on one of the main mall runs despite being a very longtime tenant).
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2024, 11:58 PM
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It's a valid point that Vancouver's Mac-friendly environment hasn't yet translated into an official Apple store presence, especially when compared to Toronto. Could it be that Vancouverites are too laid-back, even for Apple? Just kidding
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2024, 12:39 AM
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Word on the street is that Simons is taking two floors of the old Nordstrom at PC and Zara and Nike will fill the rest... not sure how confirmed it is but that's what I've heard being said.
I wonder if this includes Club Monaco I don't see any vacant spots for them on their leasing map in the mall.

https://assets.cadillacfairview.com/m/164f3fe581ad9132/original/PCCCT21_LEASINGPLAN.pdf
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I wonder if this includes Club Monaco I don't see any vacant spots for them on their leasing map in the mall.

https://assets.cadillacfairview.com/m/164f3fe581ad9132/original/PCCCT21_LEASINGPLAN.pdf
Club Monaco has an existing store between Sephora and the former Holister.

PS - looking at the leasing plan, I never realized that Holt Renfrew was that big (178,361 sq ft).
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WRT Montecristo, a coworker said they were turfed out of Oakridge (i.e. not allowed to have a space on one of the main mall runs despite being a very longtime tenant).
Interesting - I wonder how much all the bad press hit them reputationally with the commercial land lords. Both Anti Money Laundering and tax evasion.

https://thetyee.ca/News/2022/05/02/The-Legal-Battles-Vancouver-Bling-King/
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I guess Terrex staff must be glad there wasn't confusion as to which store was which!

Two charged after $25K in merchandise stolen from Kitsilano Arc'teryx
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/arcteryx-kitsilano-violent-robbery-theft
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Old Posted Feb 1, 2024, 12:54 PM
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I don't think Hudson's Bay ever fully restored their hours after Covid, did they?
Could be a seasonal thing but I did notice the opening time was 10am during last summer.
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Could be a seasonal thing but I did notice the opening time was 10am during last summer.
The Bay is in a retail death spiral.

Gone are the days where department stores acted as a replacement for separate trips to the shoe store, and the kitchen appliance store, and the toy store, and the electronics store. There is now simply too much variety in each category for The Bay to offer a comprehensive selection. Just look at how much larger Best Buy has to be compared to the electronics stores of yesteryear, just to carry all (but still not close to all) the televisions, AV equipment, video game consoles, cameras, computers, cell phones, etc. The same goes for shoes, where massive retailers often offer a comprehensive range of products for only a select few activities such as business, running, or team sports.

So The Bay doesn't have enough floor space to compete with the specialty brick-and-mortar retailers on selection depth, but also the internet has eaten its lunch in terms of breadth. Where do must people go if they want to purchase a book, some home décor, and a cardigan? Amazon, because they know the items they want will likely be in-stock and Amazon's doors are always open.

The department stores that are still surviving have mostly gone all-in on luxury products, where consumers are willing to pay for the in-person shopping experience so they can have a suit tailored for them or take a pair of wingtips for a test walk. But The Bay is still largely a downtown-based department store catering to the needs of middle class consumers, and most of those consumers are living in the suburbs and do their shopping with their phone from their couch while binging Vanderpump Rules or Selling Sunset.

The Bay is trying to compete with specialty retailers and e-commerce by offering breadth and depth, but it is failing at both. So the company is left either severely overstocked with items that no one wants or understocked with the items that are actually selling. But if you go all-in on Cuisinart food processors because those are selling and stop offering the KitchenAid models, maybe you'll lose a consumer to Best Buy which sells both. Or if you keep and expand your menswear section because its thriving but axe jewelry, maybe holiday shoppers buying gifts for mom and dad will just make a bundled purchase on Amazon.

So here is where the death spiral comes in: The Bay needs loads and loads of cash to fund its working capital, but it's losing customers who provide that cash. So maybe the company cuts operating hours by 20% to save some cash normally spent on wages, but that alienates the early morning and late night shoppers and further constricts cash. So maybe The Bay spends a little less on maintaining the exteriors of their flagship locations, but the grubby appearances chase away customers who had always thought of The Bay as upscale. Then maybe because of cash flow problems The Bay falls behind on vendor payments and Calvin Klein pulls its spring catalogue order, and then the customers who always bought Calvin Klein from The Bay purchase their underwear and blazers directly from Calvin Klein's website.

In short, The Bay needs an infusion of cash. But without seriously re-thinking operations, the company will burn through any infusion in short order. I'm afraid we will be resigned to grubby exteriors, shorter operating hours, and understocked shelves until The Bay goes under or new investors and/or management make some serious changes.
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Entertainment brand HMV making comeback through Toys "R" Us locations

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HMV is making a comeback through Toys "R" Us Canada.

The toy retailer says it has begun selling merchandise from the entertainment brand in five Toys “R” Us Canada locations in Ontario, but more will follow through the spring.

Products for sale in the HMV-branded sections include CDs, DVDs, vinyl, record players and other collector items like T-shirts and books.

Toys "R" Us Canada says it is bringing HMV back because of consumer demand for pop culture, collector and nostalgic merchandise.

HMV and Toys "R" Us Canada are both owned by Putman Investments whose portfolio also includes Sunrise Records, Everest Toys, FYE, T. Kettle and Rooms + Spaces.

HMV Canada closed its 102 locations in Canada in 2017, but the brand still has a footprint in the U.K.
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The Bay is in a retail death spiral.
I think they know this and are just trying to eke out every penny out of the company before it implodes. Unless you blow up the valuation of the business and try to sell off the remaining real estate I doubt anyone steps up to invest in HBC as a department store.
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CF bringing more digital signage into their malls.

https://retail-insider.com/retail-inside...adas-top-malls-with-cineplex-interviews/

I guess Pacific Centre with the basement/low ceilings really isn't a candidate for this.
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I think they know this and are just trying to eke out every penny out of the company before it implodes. Unless you blow up the valuation of the business and try to sell off the remaining real estate I doubt anyone steps up to invest in HBC as a department store.
Something just feels very 'off' about the downtown Hudson's Bay these day with the broken escalators and elevators, the broken sound system, the recent flood, the reduced hours. Really feels like the days are numbered and I'm having doubts the company will live to see the renovated downtown building or whether that will ever happen.
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Does anyone know if they have started work on the level 6 office conversion and level 7 reno in the Bay Building?

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CF bringing more digital signage into their malls.

https://retail-insider.com/retail-inside...adas-top-malls-with-cineplex-interviews/

I guess Pacific Centre with the basement/low ceilings really isn't a candidate for this.
they have this one at Pac Centre at the very south end where you take the escalators up to Granville/Robson


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Old Posted Feb 2, 2024, 12:56 AM
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Agreed on the department store take.

The way that Winners and Homesense attract customers is the ever-changing stock and the "hunt" for goods - not even necessarily a bargain hunt.

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CityMarket at The Post either is already open or opens tomorrow (Feb 2nd).

Daily Hive inside look:
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/loblaws-city-market-the-post-vancouver


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Does anyone know if they have started work on the level 6 office conversion and level 7 reno in the Bay Building?
Sounds like yes there are progress inspection reports since July. There was some kind of "Enforcement" on Jan 19, 2024 not sure if that's normal.

https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public/Default.aspx?PossePresentation=Guest&PosseObjectId=159556797
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CityMarket at The Post either is already open or opens tomorrow (Feb 2nd).

Daily Hive inside look:
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/loblaws-city-market-the-post-vancouver

Nice! I usually go to the Whole Foods on Cambie while waiting for my daughter's class to finish, but if this one has validated parking also then it's another place for me to hang.
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The recently vacated Brooks Brothers on Alberni has been leased already

[IMG][url=https://flic.kr/p/2pw3Lt7]

As has the long vacated Tesla (and for ages a promised tea store) on the 900 block Robson
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As for the record, leased signs are on the Club Monaco store which just closed on the 1000-block Robson, ... and at the old Cactus Club on the 1100-block Robson
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The recently vacated Brooks Brothers on Alberni has been leased already

As has the long vacated Tesla (and for ages a promised tea store) on the 900 block Robson



As for the record, leased signs are on the Club Monaco store which just closed on the 1000-block Robson, ... and at the old Cactus Club on the 1100-block Robson
It's weird the tea shop had all their permits for tenant improvements approved last June.

LoopNet shows CRU 1 and CRU 3 being availlable March 01, 2025 (on either side of the old Brooks Brother space)

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/1022-1028-Alberni-St-Vancouver-BC/30781808/

The Club Monaco space is getting a facade upgrade so you assume it's someone large coming in.
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