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I have my doubts, but why not just add the extra 93 feet, and call it America’s first mega-tall skyscraper at this point?
I believe the 1,907 feet is symbolic, the state of Oklahoma was admitted to the union in 1907
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Although I've been a (very ) long-time reader of the forum and have absorbed it to the core, I had never felt inclined to register, so I take this first opportunity to greet you all. Also, to contribute something to this thread.

While it's true that for the video, I would have liked to have some distant shots from other points in the city to attack different angles, with the little I've managed to gather, I think it's enough to get an idea of the outcome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eMmBwhieXw


Thanks. I enjoy thise videos, and have posted a few of them.



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Who is Scot Matteson, the developer planning the tallest tower in the US?
A virtual unknown has big ambitions in Oklahoma City






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Several questions were prompted by recently publicized plans to build the country’s tallest tower in, of all places, Oklahoma City.

One is: Who is Scot Matteson, the developer pitching such a project?

In its current iteration proposed on Jan. 22, The Boardwalk at Bricktown would include four towers and 2.7 million square feet of space across nearly 4 acres, with 1,900 residential units, a 480-key hotel and 110,000 square feet of retail and restaurants.

The centerpiece would be the tallest tower in the U.S., a 1,907-foot supertall that would dwarf the 1,776-foot One World Trade Center. Another three towers would each rise 345 feet.
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The enigmatic developer, however, has an opaque background.

Neither of Matteson’s companies cited in the press release — Matteson Capital and Centurion Partners — have a website.

Details of his completed projects are sparse, other than what he has told the press. He claims to have 40 years of development experience and to have been involved in The Residences at Little Nell in Aspen, Colorado, the Icon Hotel in Houston, the Sapphire Tower condominiums in San Diego and Miami, and “a 5,000-acre master plan in Tuscany, Italy.”
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Prior to 2020, most of what was written about Matteson had to do with his brief relationship with Shannon Beador, a cast member of the “Real Housewives of Orange County.” Their relationship lasted about six months in 2018. During that time, salacious allegations about the couple were published in online tabloids, which told of bounced child support checks and too much drinking.

There is a 2006 Aspen Times feature about Centurion Partners’ co-founders, Matteson and two others development plans for Aspen, including building Residences at The Little Nell.

A 2016 court record shows a small claims case for an unspecified amount of less than $10,000 filed against Matteson — which is nothing compared to the 8-, 9- and 10-figure lawsuits many large developers face throughout their careers. The case was mediated two years later. It’s unclear if it was connected to his business dealings.
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In addition to listing Matteson Capital and Centurion Partners in his employment history, his LinkedIn profile says he had a four-year stint as executive chairman and founder of Quiksilver Hotels & Resorts International from 2013-2017. Like Matteson’s other ventures, there is very little information on the company.

A LinkedIn page describes it as “a newly-formed hospitality company that will manage, acquire, and develop luxury hotel and resort projects using the Quiksilver brand.” Some news outlets ran stories about the company’s strategy in 2014, as well as its plans to build a $350-million-dollar “world class” surf resort in Palm Desert. Ten years later there are still no signs of the resort.

Aside from his brief high-profile relationship, little else is out there on his personal life. A Facebook account bearing his name says that he’s a pancreatic cancer survivor and a widower. And a 2019 GoFundMe page set up by his four daughters includes Matteson’s picture and an appeal to raise $100,000 to help him fight Stage 3 pancreatic cancer. Around $15,000 from 77 donors has been raised as of Jan. 26.
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Since 2020, however, Matteson has almost no digital footprint, until he resurfaced with The Boardwalk at Bricktown plans.

While it’s hard to get a clear picture of who Matteson is, what is plainly in focus is why a developer would eye OKC for a major project. It’s one of the fastest-growing markets in the U.S., having expanded its population from about 400,000 to more than 600,000 over the past 10 years. It’s also got a new $900 million downtown arena on the way for its NBA team, the Oklahoma City Thunder.

Still, in a city like OKC, where the skyline is far more modest than other urban centers, a supertall flanked by three much shorter towers would stand out like a huge middle finger to the Southwest. Perhaps that is an implicit statement the clandestine developer is hoping to make?
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Matteson’s partners have expressed doubts about the project becoming a reality.

Randy Hogan, an Oklahoma developer who is partnering with Matteson on the project, called the supertall proposal “aspirational,” according to The Oklahoman. And that was back when the plans called for the tower to rise only 1,750 feet.

But Matteson insists that he is determined to push forward.

“I’m used to being told you can’t do things,” he told The Oklahoman in December. “But I’m used to getting it done.”

While that’s bold talk, his ability to back it up could be met with a slew of challenges, particularly in securing financing when interest rates are high and distress is piling up everywhere across sectors.

So how Matteson can pull this off — or whether he has to rethink his plans altogether — will remain unanswered questions for now.
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Guys, here are a few skyline renderings from OKCTalker KayneMo. It shows the Boardwalk project added to the existing OKC skyline. You'll probably come away that OKC isn't as barron as some are saying, and IMO Legends adds nicely from several angles.


https://i.postimg.cc/hKVpLmwb/okc-supertall-1.png


https://i.postimg.cc/GLgQLx8r/okc-supertall-2.png


https://i.postimg.cc/rVwj2PpQ/okc-supertall-3.png


https://i.postimg.cc/2zwGJDC1/okc-supertall-4.png



I think there are several more announcements from OKC that will also shock many on here, but I'll defer to when those happen.

https://i.postimg.cc/vQMX3BwR/okc-supertall-5.png
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eho’s getting louisville museum plaza tower vibes?
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Thanks. I enjoy thise videos, and have posted a few of them.

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Thank you very much to you as well. Let's see if I have some time and I can participate here occasionally.
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I love how bizarre this is.
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I love how bizarre this is.
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Although I've been a (very ) long-time reader of the forum and have absorbed it to the core, I had never felt inclined to register, so I take this first opportunity to greet you all. Also, to contribute something to this thread.

While it's true that for the video, I would have liked to have some distant shots from other points in the city to attack different angles, with the little I've managed to gather, I think it's enough to get an idea of the outcome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eMmBwhieXw
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Normally, I don't pay too much attention to proposals in other cities, but I love how this thread is getting an insane amount of bumps (insert 1980s joke here).

Love the diagram video...... Even if this doesn't get built, OKC is getting hardcore positive PR from this.

People said negative things about the Devon Tower after it was built because people said it looked out of place. Given OKC isn't known for having a well balanced skyline, I say build it (if the money pencils out).
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I'm really liking the top of this thing, it'd be a good tallest building.

While I don't expect this to happen, at least at this height, keep in mind that projects like this could help the city boom and put it on the map, couple that with the fact that construction costs are way cheaper in OKC (but then again so would the condos inside but still), I think this would be a cool project for a country like the USA.

Maybe some other novelty projects will pop up too and increase tourism, like Dubai or maybe Vegas. We gave the world so much from a technological standpoint, even if it doesn't make total economic sense it's fun to dream.

NY or Chicago don't need a building like this as they're already established mega skylines and world cities, but I at least hope to see 175 Park or Tribune East get built + whatever other 400 meter towers.

Tornados could be an issue but I'm not sure how much worse they are than the hurricanes that hit places like NY or Miami.
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Related’s proposal for its casino is supposed to be amazing. But I agree that 1,000 ft here would be amazing as well.
A 1,000 foot Legends Tower should still include an observation deck and restaurant on top as the Devon Energy Center has a restaurant on top and many people were curious about an observation deck on top of the Devon Energy Center when it was under construction. Showd you that Oklahoma City, along with New York City are certainly the two cities in the United States where the market for observation decks as part of projects where tall buildings dominate the skyline exist. The CEB Tower in Arlington, Virginia that was built in 2018 also has an observation deck open to the public on the top floor.
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A 1,000 foot Legends Tower should still include an observation deck and restaurant on top as the Devon Energy Center has a restaurant on top and many people were curious about an observation deck on top of the Devon Energy Center when it was under construction.
I think you have that point covered.
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Happy for OKC, couldn't have happened to a better city! This is going to have enormous economic impact for the entire state of Oklahoma! Love the people of OKC and I can't wait to see this tower in person! Go head OKC making history!

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Ironically Oklahoma City surpassed New York City in height once before. In 1954 the first structure to surpass the Empire State Building in height to become the world's tallest structure was a guyed tv tower in Oklahoma City 1,576 feet tall. So it would be kind of poetic if it happened again. 1,907 feet tall would not only make it tallest building in the United States but it would also be the tallest freestanding structure in the western hemisphere surpassing the CN Tower. There are 2,000+ foot tall guyed towers in North Dakota and elsewhere so it won't be tallest structure in the United States.

http://https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffin_Television_Tower_Oklahoma

Also I found this YouTube video of when it was dismantled in 2015:

https://youtu.be/Qapot6VQ7LI?si=PGEGMNbbIHeTrMjx
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https://therealdeal.com/national/2024/01/28/who-is-real-estate-developer-scot-matteson/

Who is Scot Matteson, the developer planning the tallest tower in the US?
A virtual unknown has big ambitions in Oklahoma City






By Ted Glanzer
JAN 28, 2024


They’re not letting this one go. I guess the media is as fascinated by this proposal as skyscraper lovers. But I have less confidence this can get built than I did before, which wasn’t much to begin with.



https://nypost.com/2024/01/29/real-estate/whos-the-man-building-the-tallest-tower-in-the-us/

Who is Scot Matteson? The developer who dated Shannon Beador and is building America’s tallest tower




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Jan. 29, 2024


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Plans to construct the tallest tower in the US have been unveiled, and the location is one many may not expect: Oklahoma City, which isn’t known for skyscrapers.

However, one key question looms large: Who is Scot Matteson, the developer spearheading this ambitious project?

What’s for certain is there’s more information on the development itself than the man behind it.

…..He claims to bring 40 years of development experience and cites involvement in projects such as the Residences at the famed Little Nell hotel in Aspen, the Icon Hotel in Houston, the Sapphire Tower condominiums in San Diego and Miami, and a 5,000-acre master plan in Tuscany, Italy.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/01/27/oklahoma-city-skyscraper/72371121007/

Oklahoma City wants to steal New York's thunder with new tallest skyscraper in US
Today, the tallest building in the US is One World Trade Center in New York City. But there are plans for a taller skyscraper, the Legends Tower in Oklahoma City.



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The tallest building in the U.S. could be built in … Oklahoma City? OK.

California developer Scot Matteson announced plans last month to expand a planned Boardwalk At Bricktown development by adding a 134-story tower standing at 1,750 feet. That would have put the tower slightly shorter than the 1,776-foot-tall Freedom Tower at One World Trade Center in New York City.

But now Matteson has set his sights even higher. His investment and development company last week announced plans to increase the height for the Legends Tower to 1,907 feet tall – a symbolic figure in that Oklahoma became a state in 1907.

If the plan succeeds, the Legends Tower would be the tallest building in the U.S. and the fifth tallest in the world, the developers say. The tallest is the Burj Khalifa in Dubai, which is 2,716 feet tall.
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Pointing to a period of growth, Matteson said in a statement that Oklahoma City is "well-positioned to support large-scale projects like the one envisioned for Bricktown.”

“We believe that this development will be an iconic destination for the city, further driving the expansion and diversification of the growing economy, drawing in investment, new businesses, and jobs," he said. "It’s a dynamic environment and we hope to see The Boardwalk at Bricktown stand as the pride of Oklahoma City.”

The project would bring Las Vegas-style glitz to an already-vibrant Lower Bricktown area near the Oklahoma River in downtown Oklahoma City. It covers more than 3 acres and is planned to host more than 2 million square feet of residential, retail and entertainment development, including two Hyatt hotels, condos, apartments, stores and restaurants.

The development will also have a lagoon and boardwalk. Also coming to the area, a new arena for the NBA franchise Oklahoma Thunder, which is expected to cost at least $900 million.

Work on the first three 345-foot towers is scheduled to begin this year; the Legends Tower would be built after those are completed.
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Some doubt the mega tower will stand

Can Oklahoma City swing this? There are some doubters.

When the announcement was made, World-Architects asked: "Why is a such a tall tower being built in Oklahoma City (OKC)? And will it actually happen?"

As we await the developers' request for a zoning variance or rezoning, "it remains to be seen if the tallest tower in the U.S. being built in Oklahoma is just a publicity stunt, or if the team will be able to follow through on their dream," wrote World-Architects, which describes itself as "a network of selected contemporary architects and building professionals."
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Ironically Oklahoma City surpassed New York City in height once before. In 1954 the first structure to surpass the Empire State Building in height to become the world's tallest structure was a guyed tv tower in Oklahoma City 1,576 feet tall. So it would be kind of poetic if it happened again. 1,907 feet tall would not only make it tallest building in the United States but it would also be the tallest freestanding structure in the western hemisphere surpassing the CN Tower. There are 2,000+ foot tall guyed towers in North Dakota and elsewhere so it won't be tallest structure in the United States.

http://https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffin_Television_Tower_Oklahoma

Also I found this YouTube video of when it was dismantled in 2015:

https://youtu.be/Qapot6VQ7LI?si=PGEGMNbbIHeTrMjx
Though North Dakota cities have some of the smallest skylines in the US but the 2000+ feet radio guyed towers are very gigantic. The tallest building in my state is 385 feet but our tallest structure is some gigantic TV or radio tower that is 1,504 feet tall near Hutchinson, KS.
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Guys, here are a few skyline renderings from OKCTalker KayneMo. It shows the Boardwalk project added to the existing OKC skyline. You'll probably come away that OKC isn't as barron as some are saying, and IMO Legends adds nicely from several angles.


https://i.postimg.cc/hKVpLmwb/okc-supertall-1.png


https://i.postimg.cc/GLgQLx8r/okc-supertall-2.png


https://i.postimg.cc/rVwj2PpQ/okc-supertall-3.png


https://i.postimg.cc/2zwGJDC1/okc-supertall-4.png




I think there are several more announcements from OKC that will also shock many on here, but I'll defer to when those happen.

https://i.postimg.cc/vQMX3BwR/okc-supertall-5.png
It doesn't look as ooff as I thought it would be. Still crazy tall though. I am going before the city of Wichita on February 13th for my project which will be somewhere in the 500 to 570 foot range. The people of Wichita act like something that is 500 or so feet tall is a mountain.
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I love how bizarre this is.
This is the best way to sum it up

If this guy can pull it off, more power to him. I just wish the design was more interesting. It has too much of a Vegas-y tower feel, based on the renderings.
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