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Oh yeah, still a little much, but not as bonkers as some people will have you believe considering the scope of what went into that price tag beyond just concrete and steel.
Stupid annoying facts, so inconvenient to those who want to be perpetually outraged.
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Anyone who’s ever demoed, designed, and built anything will view those numbers as wild. Worth looking into. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Also, Board Meeting on January 25!!!

EDIT: in the video, what's the biodome looking thing at 1:06?

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Also, Board Meeting on January 25!!!

EDIT: in the video, what's the biodome looking thing at 1:06?
Greenhouse at GG property?
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in the video, what's the biodome looking thing at 1:06?
That's the Greenhouses at Rideau Hall
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Thanks! Is it open all year? I think I see some palm trees kin there, so I assume yes.
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Thanks! Is it open all year? I think I see some palm trees kin there, so I assume yes.
Last year it was during special Open Doors events (logn weekends in the suumer). Not sure if you can book it at other times to do a tour.
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NCC buys former Rideau Street Chapters building

Ted Raymond, CTV News
Updated Jan. 15, 2024 6:22 p.m. EST | Published Jan. 15, 2024 5:15 p.m. EST




The National Capital Commission has purchased an empty storefront at the corner of Rideau Street and Sussex Drive that was once occupied by Chapters, the NCC has confirmed.

The Chapters on Rideau Street had been in business since 1996, but closed in 2022 when parent company Indigo opened a new store in the CF Rideau Centre mall across the street.

Sources tell CTV News Ottawa that the NCC purchased the property at 47-57 Rideau St. for more than $20 million.

In a statement, the NCC confirmed it had bought the property, but did not disclose the sale price.

"This building was purchased because it is considered part of the National Interest Land Mass (NILM) due to its prominent location along Confederation Boulevard, and its potential to bring new life to this area of the downtown core," the NCC said.

It's unclear what the NCC plans to do with the space, but sources say the Crown corporation will be seeking tenants. The NCC says it is actively engaged in "confidential discussions with a proponent" and expects to be able to provide further details "in the coming weeks."

The NCC is the largest property owner in the national capital region. It owns more than 1,600 properties in Ottawa and Gatineau, including several commercial, residential and heritage buildings, in addition to the capital's six official residences.

According to the NCC's 2022-2023 annual report, commercial property leasing in the last fiscal year brought in $19.8 million in revenue.

--With files from CTV News Ottawa's Graham Richardson and John Crupi.

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ncc-buys-former-rideau-street-chapters-building-for-20m-sources-1.6726925
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NCC buys former Rideau Street Chapters building

The National Capital Commission has purchased an empty storefront at the corner of Rideau Street and Sussex Drive that was once occupied by Chapters, the NCC has confirmed.

The Chapters on Rideau Street had been in business since 1996, but closed in 2022 when parent company Indigo opened a new store in the CF Rideau Centre mall across the street.

Sources tell CTV News Ottawa that the NCC purchased the property at 47-57 Rideau St. for more than $20 million.

In a statement, the NCC confirmed it had bought the property, but did not disclose the sale price.

"This building was purchased because it is considered part of the National Interest Land Mass (NILM) due to its prominent location along Confederation Boulevard, and its potential to bring new life to this area of the downtown core," the NCC said.

It's unclear what the NCC plans to do with the space, but sources say the Crown corporation will be seeking tenants. The NCC says it is actively engaged in "confidential discussions with a proponent" and expects to be able to provide further details "in the coming weeks."

The NCC is the largest property owner in the national capital region. It owns more than 1,600 properties in Ottawa and Gatineau, including several commercial, residential and heritage buildings, in addition to the capital's six official residences.

According to the NCC's 2022-2023 annual report, commercial property leasing in the last fiscal year brought in $19.8 million in revenue.

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ncc-buys-former-rideau-street-chapters-building-1.6726925
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Get ready for another sub 22 story 'Luxury' rental/condo building in this 'Prominent Location' of 'National Interest'.

The NCC says it is actively engaged in "confidential discussions with CLARIDGE"

I mean, I could be wrong, but based on history, I'd say there is a 98% chance we get a few years of pipe dreams and consultations about aquariums, portrait galleries, and other fanciful things, but at the end of the day it will be a Claridge 'Luxury' residential project.
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Get ready for another sub 22 story 'Luxury' rental/condo building in this 'Prominent Location' of 'National Interest'.

The NCC says it is actively engaged in "confidential discussions with CLARIDGE"

I mean, I could be wrong, but based on history, I'd say there is a 98% chance we get a few years of pipe dreams and consultations about aquariums, portrait galleries, and other fanciful things, but at the end of the day it will be a Claridge 'Luxury' residential project.
it actually sounds worse then a possible Claridge tower. according to the article "...the Crown corporation will be seeking tenants. The NCC says it is actively engaged in "confidential discussions with a proponent" and expects to be able to provide further details "in the coming weeks." which tells me they are just gonna lease the current space instead of demolishing this ugly building and building something new and higher then 2 stories. I could be reading this wrong tho but that was my reaction after reading this.
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...the Crown corporation will be seeking tenants.
This would be a good location for a bookstore!
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Fear not. With the NCC's reputation for maintaining its buildings, this building will be nothing more than a pile of rubble in a few more years. I just hope that the prospective tenant knows enough to NOT sign a long-term lease.
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the shape of the site would make it hard to build anything over 9 storeys, unless they include the corner. Would be a good hotel site.
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NCC seeks new operator for Meech Lake jewel O'Brien House
The mansion was build in the 1930s for J. Ambrose O'Brien, a Renfrew-born Industrialist who founded the Montreal Canadiens and the National Hockey Association, the precursor of the NHL.

Blair Crawford, Ottawa Citizen
Published Jan 17, 2024 • Last updated 4 hours ago • 3 minute read




The National Capital Commission is having another go at running its historic O’Brien House at Meech Lake as a boutique hotel … or a spa, or a bed and breakfast, or a restaurant, or a wellness centre …

In fact, the NCC will entertain “any other innovative use” for the nearly century-old cliff-side mansion so long as it’s compatible with commission plans for Gatineau Park and the national capital region “while preserving and showcasing the building’s heritage character and providing public access.”

“You talk about ‘location, location, location,'” said Bill Leonard, the NCC’s vice-president of real estate and development. “You’re 20 minutes from downtown Ottawa. You’re on Meech Lake for swimmers. You’re on the trails for walkers and cross-country skiers. You’re minutes from Camp Fortune. Its location is everything you could ask for.”

The mansion was build in the 1930s for J. Ambrose O’Brien, a Renfrew-born Industrialist who founded the Montreal Canadiens and the National Hockey Association, the precursor of the NHL. The NCC acquired the property in 1964 and it underwent a nearly $4-million renovation completed in 2018. It was run for nearly two years as a boutique hotel by Robert Milling and Lynn Berthiaume, operators of the Wakefield Mill, another NCC-owned building, but closed in 2019.

Leonard said the NCC and Milling and Berthiaume agreed to end their five-year lease for O’Brien House early because of a difference in business models. Milling and Berthiaume wanted to run it as a space for special events, while the NCC wants it to open for regular hotel and restaurant use.

Milling declined to comment for this story, but In a 2019 Facebook post said the hotel was “not financially sustainable as high operating costs exceeded revenues.”

That hiccup, followed by the COVID-19 pandemic, meant O’Brien House has sat unused for more than four years, but the NCC has been fielding more and more inquiries about the property, Leonard said. It issued a request for proposals just before Christmas.

“It has been on the market for the last three years, and we’ve been taking individual offers on a case-by-case basis because it had been really slow. But now there’s a critical mass building and we want to make sure there’s a formal process and that everything is on the up and up.”

The competition is set to close at the end of January, although that deadline may be extended, he said.

From its rocky hilltop location, O’Brien has a commanding view of Meech Lake and the surrounding Gatineau Hills. In the 2018 renovation, which was done with input from Milling and Berthiaume, the building was gutted to the studs and rebuilt to modern standards. The showpiece is a sun-drenched kitchen with views across the valley.

“The kitchen is probably the best work space that any chef will ever see,” Leonard said. “The intent behind the design is that we wanted to attract the best chefs to work here, so it has the best kitchen to work in.”

The renovations added an elevator to make the hotel accessible and 11 individually designed guest rooms, a large salon with a floor-to-ceiling stone fireplace and a wrap-around terrace with a stunning view overlooking Meech Lake.

A nearby caretaker’s house is also available for lease.

“We always envisioned that this could almost be a mom-and-pop type operation or managed by a couple, and proximity to the hotel is very important,” Leonard said. “The residential property is set aside so that, if an operator wanted to use that for onsite staff accommodation, they could.”

In the request for proposals, the NCC has identified the annual market rent for the property to be $144,000, with the caretaker’s house available for an additional $2,450 per month, plus an estimated property tax bill of $6,249.51.

O’Brien House and the Wakefield Mill are the only two hotels in Gatineau Park, Leonard said.

“It’s a wonderful hotel. I can’t imagine anyone who wouldn’t want to stay here,” he said. “If you want to enjoy Gatineau Park, you’ll want to stay here.”

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/ncc-seeks-new-operator-for-meech-lake-jewel-obrien-house
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The Agenda for next week's Board Meeting has been posted.

Quite a small agenda, but it does include a Building LeBreton Project Updates (I)

https://ncc-ccn.gc.ca/events/virtual-board-of-directors-meeting-january-2024
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The Agenda for next week's Board Meeting has been posted.

Quite a small agenda, but it does include a Building LeBreton Project Updates (I)

https://ncc-ccn.gc.ca/events/virtual-board-of-directors-meeting-january-2024
Better have a successful proponent for the Flats District. It's been two freakin' years!
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Public agenda:

https://ncc-website-2.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/NCC-CCN-2024-04-18-Public-Agenda-WEB.pdf

Of note:

- National Printing Bureau Rehab
- NRC master plan
- Ottawa River North Shore
- Gatineau Park acquisitions

LeBreton only discussed during in-camera meeting.

For the NRC, don't get you hopes up. Was hoping for street grid extensions and residential on Blair and Montreal, but there's none of that. Nothing beyond new NRC buildings from what I understand.

https://nrc.canada.ca/en/corporate/your-community/ottawa-new-master-plan-nrc-montreal-road-campus

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First time in a while that Lebreton Flat isnt on the agenda I feel?!?

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First time in a while that Lebreton Flat isnt on the agenda I fell?!?
Yeah, that's true. Not much to discuss though. Flats District now needs to go to Council. Took about 5 months between hearing Dream was chosen and DevApp to appear. Sens have until the Fall to make a decision. I imagine they are taking a pause on releasing more land for tender.
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